[normy]

Your point is why I think Rudy wont be what people think he will be. Roe vs. Wade is bad law and certainly the Constitution does not protect abortion. If anything it protects the life of the baby. If Rudy appoints strict constructionists in the mold of Scalia and Thomas then we will be fine. If however he is actually Arnold, which I don’t think he is, we would be in big trouble.

[Greg F]

I agree normy. I’ll vote for Guilianni if that is my choice against Hillary.

[epow]

If however he is actually Arnold, which I don’t think he is, we would be in big trouble.

IMO Rudy is a much better example of the classic RINO than Ahhnold can ever aspire to be.

I have never lived in NYC, (in NY state but not NYC) but AFAIK the only thing Rudy did while in office that might qualify as even moderately illiberal was allowing NYC cops to vigorously enforce the law and thereby reduce violent crime in the city. Other than that, where is the difference between him and his crony Bloomberg?

[Ol' Sparky]

If however he is actually Arnold, which I don’t think he is, we would be in big trouble.,P> And, in trouble for a lot longer than if Hillary reaches office. There will be decades worth of damage done to conservatism and the GOP if that is the case.

And, there is no reason to believe Giuliani is any different than Arnold. In fact, he compared himself to Arnold back in June:

"I governed very much like your governor does. I got results and I want people to look at that and say that's the way I would govern as president of the United States. I would get results."

Rudolph Giuliani, 6/29/07