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Thompson talks of daughter who died
Yahoo News / AP ^ | 10/22/2007 | LIBBY QUAID, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 10/22/2007 4:12:11 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

TAMPA, Fla. - Republican Fred Thompson sidestepped a question about the Terri Schiavo right-to-die case last month, saying he didn't remember the details. On Monday he said he's uncomfortable discussing it because of his own daughter's death.

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"And this will probably be the last time I ever address it."

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He added: "It should be decided by families. The federal government and the state government, too — except for the court system — ought to stay out of it, as far as I'm concerned."

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To: MHT

“Terri’s husband might have had a little bit to do with getting her to that state to begin with. He made several “statements” about the evening she was stricken and no two had the same information, time of incident, when he last saw her, where he was, etc.”

I’ve read similiar stuff and agree.


161 posted on 10/23/2007 7:45:51 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: napscoordinator

“I agree with what you say here. I just for the life of me cannot understand why he wanted her dead when the parents would have taken care of her. He would not have been responsible for anything. He easily could have gone on with his life as he already was doing. There must be so much more to the story that we don’t know because it does not make sense especially on the part of the husband. The only possible thought could be that he did not want her awake ever because perhaps she could incriminate him someway. I see no other reason.”

I think he HATED Terri to an extreme and perhaps he wanted to make sure she could never, ever speak of how she got in this condition. I see no other reason too.


162 posted on 10/23/2007 7:47:17 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: DelphiUser

God does not want you to take your own life, and don’t think your troubles are over, if you do.

You STILL must face God after you die.

Also, Terri did not want to die. She cried when she heard her feeding tube would be removed. She knew.


163 posted on 10/23/2007 9:52:58 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: EternalVigilance

“Every elected officical in America, including the Governor of Florida, and the President of the United States, takes an oath to protect and defend the Constitution.

Both the Constitution of the United States and the constitution of the state of Florida contain provisions protecting the life of the innocent.

These provisions are quite explicit.

Thompson is a disaster.”

I was disappointed that Mark Levin, a Terri supporter, defended Thompson.

Even if Levin thought that Thompson was the best of the front runners, at the very least, Levin could have kept quiet.


164 posted on 10/23/2007 9:57:08 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: All

And Michael had his own parents killed. He admitted it on national tv on Larry King’s shows.

http://www.sweetliberty.org/bulletins/terri/lkl1.htm

CALLER: Yes. Does it bother you that the death is so slow? Maybe Dr. Kevorkian-style would be a faster, more peaceful way?

SCHIAVO: Removing somebody’s feeding is very painless. It is a very easy way to die. Probably the second better way to die, being the first being an aneurysm.
And it doesn’t bother me at all. I’ve seen it happen.

I had to do it with my own parents.


165 posted on 10/23/2007 9:59:11 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Calpernia

fyi


166 posted on 10/23/2007 10:11:43 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: All

When they attempted to starve Terri to death previously, and Terri’s sibblings tried to have her fed orally, Florida’s Judge Greer said:

“I don’t want anyone trying to feed that girl.
The law of the case is that she is going to die.”


167 posted on 10/23/2007 10:12:16 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Bobbisox
the spouse must be relied on in the Courts

A spouse who has "moved on" with a new girlfriend/children and who has a financial interest in the "loved one's" death?
A spouse whose actions, the night the brain injury occurred, had come under question?

The Congress and the President had no right to interfere

The only "interference" by Congress and the president was an attempt to let FAMILY (Terri's parents, in this case) take their appeal to a different (federal) court, a court that could consider this life-and-death issue from a different angle.

As we should all remember from the 2000 election, Florida's Supreme Court is extremely left wing. SCOFLA's rejection of appeals for Terri's life wasn't worth any more than its attempt to hand AlGore the presidency.

168 posted on 10/23/2007 10:21:01 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: Sun
God does not want you to take your own life, and don’t think your troubles are over, if you do.

  1. You are not God.
  2. My troubles are mine, and have nothing to do with my attitudes on people deciding that they would rather not be kept alive.
  3. I did not succeed, because I was incapable of it, My incapacitation was why I wanted to do it. (irony...)
  4. You cannot possibly completely understand what it's like to be fifteen and to have your life be over, but not be dead.
  5. I thought I would be more useful on the other side where I would not be just a "Head".
You STILL must face God after you die.

I was, and am looking forward to it.

Also, Terri did not want to die. She cried when she heard her feeding tube would be removed. She knew.

This is not supported information, some say she did, some say she did not, I was not there, neither were you. We do know her brain waves were flat, she cried spontaneously all the time. there is no evidence that anyone was "home" and no one had been for years.

I am not saying I would have done what Michael did, but I can understand that after 15 years, he wanted to remarry, and as a catholic, he couldn't until she died. She got some money to support her, it was gone, who was paying?

I do not believe we are "Gone" when we die, and as such, life is not so precious so as to be preserved when the person ho is being kept alive is more miserable than they would be if they just went home to God. I am not hiding from him, you can't, I was looking forward to being a giver again, while I thought that in this life from then on, I would be a taker, I don't like being a taker, but a quadriplegic doesn't really have a choice on that, I faced it, I know.
169 posted on 10/23/2007 10:21:21 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
I understand, but I would have wanted that done 14.5 years earlier, not waiting around for 15 years.

Fine for you.

But you're not Terri.

A lot of people decided how to come down on this case by saying, "Gee, I wouldn't want to be kept alive under those circumstances" -- and concluding, ergo, it's OK to starve and dehydrate someone (else) to death.

170 posted on 10/23/2007 10:31:59 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: mountainbunny
Her husband was her family. He was her only family as far as the courts were concerned and as far as the law is concerned. And that is the way it has always been and that is the way it should always be.

Period.

He may have been a bad husband, he may have been a great husband. I don't know. No one knows. What we do know is that he was her husband. Her husband did what he said she would have wanted. Her relatives had no standing because there was a closer family member willing to make the decisions - her husband.

I am shocked over and over that people who say they are pro-family but are so willing to throw the concept of marriage away with both hands because they don't like what this particular husband did.

If there was credible evidence of a crime that this husband committed, it would have been acted on. But there wasn't. I have trouble with the "vast conspiracy" theory that he harmed her and the evidence of it is clear, but there was a vast, far-reaching conspiracy to hide his actions by every judge, District Attorney, doctor and police officer involved.

I vastly prefer that two married people are a unit unto each other, to the alternative: the relatives getting a say in the lives of a married couple. If they ever do, what will stop them from deciding all sorts of issues that should remain between husband and wife?

For the record: I do not agree with what he did, but it weakens the institution of marriage to allow people who don't agree with the spouse to interfere and take over the decision making process.

In Fred Thompson's daughter's case, she had no husband and her dad was her closest family. That was never the case in the Schiavo case.

171 posted on 10/23/2007 10:44:55 AM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: Dixie Yooper
Fred is right, it's the family's decision, not the courts, not a talk show host's and definitely not a crowd of strangers who have gathered in the hospital parking lot.

Have you forgotten? -- it WAS family in the Schiavo case.

The problem was, there was a family dispute. That's why it ended up in the courts.

No "talk show hosts" or "crowd of strangers" made the decision. A judge did. And the judge used the power of the state to order a woman's death.

172 posted on 10/23/2007 11:38:11 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: mountainbunny
Her husband was her family. He was her only family as far as the courts were concerned and as far as the law is concerned. And that is the way it has always been and that is the way it should always be.

Period.

No, not period. And that is not "that is the way it has always been."

Spouses have been removed as legal guardians by courts, many times.

The fact that Judge Greer did not remove Michael Schiavo as guardian does not mean there weren't grounds to do so. What happened, in this case, was that Judge Greer obviously (1) was biased against Terri's parents and (2) favored Felos and the euthanasia movement.

173 posted on 10/23/2007 11:45:51 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: gracesdad
Guess what? Euthanasia is ILLEGAL. Thoughtful decisions are not the same as purposefully killing somebody who had no diseases nor was terminally ill.

By the way, Fred Thompson's daughter died of an accidental overdose, or was it??? Bioethickers love to use drugs if they can't dehydrate or starve someone off this planet.

It's my damn business if vulnerable people are targeted by society and preyed upon by the likes of the aclu, the atheists of America,George Soros, the death attorneys, organ harvesting industry, bad hospices, hospitals and nursing homes (not good ones), corrupt judges, abusive husbands and wives who have a new way to neglect and abuse their so called loved ones.

It is my damn business as long as people are killed for the death worshipper's agenda. I'd rather be called a Terri mourner than a death worshipper any day, understood?

If your situation doesn't fit that mold, good for you.

We don't mourn Terri. How we treat human beings is a measure of our society! TERRI SCHIAVO WAS MURDERED. I'm sure your loved one was not but in your loss, you are perhaps hypersensitive about the subject? Well, maybe Fred Thompson is too but then again, you're not running for president are you?

http://www.judgegeorgegreer.com

(judicial tyranny's favorite son).

The mission is here: www.terrisfight.org. Why don't you email them from the site and would you be rude to them? Would you? They lost an important family member too.

174 posted on 10/23/2007 12:07:38 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: DMV; 8mmMauser; Lesforlife; amdgmary
Ping! Fred's daughter allegedly died of an accidental overdose. No wonder he won't talk about Terri. What if his daughter was bioethicked. Can of worms for him if she was.

Today's www.sptimes.com.

So, the continuing saga of Fred and Terri has question marks swirling about in cyberspace.

A good investigative reporter would go back and find out what happened to Fred's daughter instead of taking Mary Matalin's word for everything.

175 posted on 10/23/2007 12:23:08 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: shhrubbery!
Yes, spouses have been removed, but he wasn't.

In the absence of any charges being brought against him (much less a conviction) her family wanted to sweep in and take over anyway because they didn't want him to decide for her. But it does not and can not and has not worked that way ever. Your spouse is first in line to be your voice if you cannot speak unless you specify otherwise or they prove themselves unworthy or remove themselves.

The family doesn't get a say just because they are related. In marriage you leave your family and form a new one. The "old" family is not as important under the law. If you believe otherwise, show where it is so.

The judge can only act where there is credible evidence. If there was credible evidence of abuse, and the judge ignored or was biased as you say, did the district attorney also ignore it?

Did the police ignore it, too?

How about the doctors who are required to report abuse?

Did they ignore it, too?

The nurses?

What about her family, when by all accounts they got along with her husband until he decided he no longer wanted her on support? Were they willing to ignore the alleged abuse when it suited them?

176 posted on 10/23/2007 12:25:47 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: shhrubbery!
Fine for you.
But you're not Terri.


True, neither are you, thank God neither of us is Michael Schivo.

IMHO it is a bit late to be having this conversation about Terri.

I am talking about me, and what I would want.
177 posted on 10/23/2007 12:26:05 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: EternalVigilance

If Fred Thompson’s daughter’s accidental overdose was actually an illegal “mercy killing”, then he’s got a big problem on his hands.


178 posted on 10/23/2007 12:26:47 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: floriduh voter; jdm; Reagan Man; ejonesie22; trisham; perfect_rovian_storm; SE Mom; Tijeras_Slim; ..
That's a big 'if.'

It is just as relevant to say "if Thompson shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die, then he's got a big problem on his hands."

179 posted on 10/23/2007 12:30:34 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: Sun

Judge Greer is evil incarnate but would have people believe he’s a good judge. He’s not even a good judge. He was socially promoted to judge when there was an opening and he did’t have to run against anyone. He was just a zoning commissioner. Greer’s reversal rate is 2/3 at the appeals level EXCEPT when he was going about the business of killing Terri. Greer wanted Terri dead because he was sick of her case! He said so in the paper. So, let her live. You don’t have to kill someone to close their file. It was 40 or 50 volumes of paper.


180 posted on 10/23/2007 12:30:43 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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