[TigersEye]

OK. I’m over it. I know 11-year-olds have sex. My wife and I run a drug/alcohol-prevention group for teens, and the teens are very honest with us about what they do. We are well past the point of finding just about anything shocking.

Interesting that this idiot doesn't see a connection between using drugs, alcohol and pre-teen sex.

The only thing you do by giving contraceptives to 11-year-olds is affirm their behavior. I don’t care how many times you say, “I’m not condoning it.” You are. If you equip them to engage in the act, you have condoned it. You can tell yourself otherwise all you want if it makes you feel better.

The author gets it though. It's not that hard to connect the dots.

It is also interesting that the Shiller's are supposed to be counseling children about the evils of drug and alcohol use but end up talking about sex with them. Did the kids bring up the subject? I doubt it. If they did why didn't the adults steer it back to what they were supposed to be there for; prevention of drug and alcohol use? I'm thinking 'watch list' for these two.

[Dan Calabrese]

[i]Interesting that this idiot doesn’t see a connection between using drugs, alcohol and pre-teen sex.[/i]

Who you calling an idiot?

The connection is what I work on all the time. It just wasn’t the primary point of this particular column.

[Dan Calabrese]

TigersEye, I think you are confused about some things.

The person who says “I’m over it” and who works with kids on drug/alcohol prevention is not Carol Schiller. It is me. The person who mentions their wife is not Carol Schiller. It is me. I am the author of the column.

You cite the connection between teen drug/alcohol use and sex - and rightly so - but then wonder why drug/alcohol counselors would be talking to kids about sex?

The question makes no sense, but here is the answer:

Kids get themselves in far more trouble when they’ve been drinking or doing other drugs, because their judgment is even more faulty than would normally be the case for teens.

So we ask them, what are some things you’ve done when you’re drunk or high that you wouldn’t do when your sober?

That’s when we start hearing about their sexual escapades. You can’t deal with substance abuse if you don’t address the behavior side effects.

[pandoraou812]

I'm thinking 'watch list' for these two.

I think you may have something there TE. Good post. ~Pandy~