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Live Updating Thread: 2007 Southern California Firestorms
LA Times ^ | 9:35 AM PDT, October 21, 2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/21/2007 9:48:36 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Global2010

Hotels/motels in the Mission Valley area (San Diego) were offering a $49.00 per night “Distressed rate” yesterday. Don’t know which hotels/motels, or how many.


2,361 posted on 10/23/2007 12:09:29 PM PDT by Mrs.Liberty (Liberalism: Someone craps their pants, and we all have to wear diapers....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

AP - Tue Oct 23, 4:07 AM ET UPDATES with latest info;
Map shows wildfires in California

2,362 posted on 10/23/2007 12:09:33 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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One of the local stations here in San Diego just showing live, fire storm in Escondido, NE section of the county


2,363 posted on 10/23/2007 12:09:57 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: SoCalPol

Which station? I may have a link.


2,364 posted on 10/23/2007 12:10:38 PM PDT by CedarDave (The only access Hillary-care will bring is access to a waiting list.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Time for some of the San Francisco, Sacramento and Fresno strike teams in LA County to move down to OC or SD.

They only got two strike teams from Phoenix because they are under a Red Flag too....or so I was told.


2,365 posted on 10/23/2007 12:11:24 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: CedarDave

Ch 8, no link have it on my TV here in San Diego


2,366 posted on 10/23/2007 12:11:25 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: SoCalPol

10-23-07 11:49 a.m. Evacuation of Palomar Mountain and Valley Center. Reverse 9-1-1 is being used to issue evacuation orders to 924 Palomar Mountain and Valley Center households. Residents are advised to take shelter at the Palomar Observatory, 35899 Canfield Road, Palomar Mountain 92060.

Escondido evacuation site update. Mission Hills High School is able to take an additional 200 evacuees at 1 Mission Hills Court, San Marcos, 92069. Calvin Christian High School is able to take an additional 100 evacuees at 1868 N. Broadway, Escondido, 92026.

http://www.sdcountyemergency.com/


2,367 posted on 10/23/2007 12:12:05 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: BurbankKarl

The Bay Area has a bunch of trucks and crews enroute and ready to go when they arrive on scene.


2,368 posted on 10/23/2007 12:13:18 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

Arnie talkin poli-speak here. He’s gotten pretty good at it.


2,369 posted on 10/23/2007 12:13:32 PM PDT by HarryCaul
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To: Eva

Have you seen this? An old thread, but still, I wonder??

New al-Qaida plot to burn U.S. forests

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 8, 2004 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 04/08/2004 6:32:11 AM PDT by joesnuffy

GLOBAL JIHAD New al-Qaida plot to burn U.S. forests Arab message board posts ‘plan of economic attack’

Posted: April 8, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

An Arabic-language jihadi website posted a message purporting to be “al-Qaida’s plan of economic attack” on the U.S. that included setting forest fires, according to the Northeast Intellgence Network. The six-point plan appeared Saturday and called for:

attacks on the assets of large American companies all over the world; attacks on U.S. oil refineries; attacks on civilian airports with the goal of financially devastating U.S. airlines; deliberate pollution of food system; setting of fires in the forests – “especially those that provide the American market with the raw materials for the wood and paper and byproducts industries”; attacks like those on the railway transportation lines in Spain;

Last fall, WorldNetDaily reported on al-Qaida’s threats against the forests of the U.S. and its allies – and pointed out the rash of devastating wildfires that rages through Europe, Australia and the U.S.

Law enforcement officials suspected several of the California wildfires that killed 18, consumed more than 718,000 acres and destroyed more than 2,400 homes in 10 days were deliberately set – increasing speculation there is a terror connection to the blazes.

Only one man was arrested – Dikran Armouchian, 23, of Pasadena. He pleaded not guilty and has not yet been tried.

Damage estimates exceeded $2 billion. The fires were among the deadliest and costliest disasters in California.

Meanwhile, there is evidence terrorism was behind other wildfires in Europe and Australia last summer.

In the devastating forest fires that swept through the Maures mountains near the French Riviera in late July, investigators found Molotov cocktails, or gasoline bombs, were used to ignite the blazes that killed at least four and destroyed 50 homes.

Luc Jousse, the mayor of Roque-Sur-Argens, called the fires “a new form of terrorism.” President Jacques Chirac threatened those responsible with “sanctions of an extraordinary gravity.”

The fires in France were the worst ever in the region.

In addition, southern Italy also was hit last summer with devastating wildfires also believed to be the result of arson.

In August, Australian authorities launched an investigation into reports al-Qaida planned to spark brushfires in a new wave of devastating terror attacks.

A June 25 FBI memo to United States law enforcement agencies revealed a senior al-Qaida detainee claimed to have developed a plan to start midsummer forest fires in the U.S.

The terrorist hoped to mimic the destruction that devastated Canberra last summer, killing four people and destroying more than 500 homes, as well as in other parts of Australia.

The memo, obtained by the Arizona Republic newspaper, said the unidentified detainee revealed he hoped to create several large, catastrophic wildfires at once.

“The detainee believed that significant damage to the U.S. economy would result and once it was realized that the fires were terrorist acts, U.S. citizens would put pressure on the U.S. government to change its policies,” the memo said.

The detainee told investigators his plan called for three or four operatives to travel to the U.S. and set timed explosive devices in forests and grasslands.

“Australian security authorities are aware of reports that al-Qaida has considered starting brushfires in the U.S. as a form of terrorist attack,” said a spokeswoman Australian Attorney General Daryl Williams. “Arson attacks are just one of a wide range of scenarios which have been considered as part of our investigations into al-Qaida’s ability to conduct attacks in Australia.”

In fact, Arab terrorists in Israel have started dozens of major forest fires over the years.

As far back as 1988, Israeli police caught more than a dozen Palestinian adults in the act of setting fires, while other Arabs confessed to arson after arrest. Some fires followed specific calls by underground Arab terrorists. A leaflet issued by the Palestinian uprising’s underground leadership called for “the destruction and burning of the enemy’s properties, industry and agriculture.”

Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir said at the time: “The need to set fires, which also leads to murders, is in my eyes worse than fundamentalism.”

Israeli nature reserve authorities said 408 fires in May and June of 1988 destroyed 400,000 acres of land, nearly seven times the acreage burned from 1974 to 1986.

Last year, Gilad “Gidi” Mastai, chief ranger in the Galilee region of Israel, told the Jerusalem Post: “It’s extremely hard to find arsonists, just like it’s hard to close off the Green Line to terrorists. The forests here are on the front line.”

But, he said, the vast majority of deliberate fires are started by Arabs with political motives.

Forest rangers often need the help of the Israel Defense Forces to battle the terror blazes.

Arson cases account for one-third of Israeli forest fires. “Political” arsonists cause the most with negligent hikers a close second.

Previous articles:

Many California fires believed to be arson

More evidence of terror in fires

Al-Qaida planned U.S. forest fires


2,370 posted on 10/23/2007 12:15:45 PM PDT by Snykerz
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To: All

Fallbrook Fire

11:59AM 92-L1; LOTTERS GREEN CANYON AT RECHE-92-S5 ADV 1039 STA M


ENGAGE!


2,371 posted on 10/23/2007 12:15:52 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: SoCalPol

Live links for Channels 7 and 10 (not 2) here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1914585/posts?page=720#720


2,372 posted on 10/23/2007 12:17:29 PM PDT by CedarDave (The only access Hillary-care will bring is access to a waiting list.)
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To: SoCalPol

Hey, SCP... how ya doin?

Are you in harms way?


2,373 posted on 10/23/2007 12:19:24 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Trying this:

http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/

2,374 posted on 10/23/2007 12:20:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: calcowgirl

Hey there, I live in the city, not in the fire area but smokey air.
I am near the Balboa Park area just up from downtown


2,375 posted on 10/23/2007 12:22:51 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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Fire Map:

Southern California Wildfires
These are the wildfires burning in Southern California that have not been contained, as of Monday night. (10/22/2007)
31,668 views - Public
Created by myfoxla.com on Oct 22 - Updated 12 hours ago

2,376 posted on 10/23/2007 12:23:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

Hope this may be of some help:

Horse stables for 1,700 available in Indio

Posted @ 7:17 PM
Evacuees are invited to stable their horses at a horse farm in the Thermal-Indio area.A private citizen, recommended by a California Department of Food & Agriculture veterinarian, has volunteered enough property, staff, food, and water resources to care for up to 1,700 horses. For more information, County residents can call (760) 399-2716.

From Peggy on COTH:

According to the OC Fire authority website (http://www.ocfa.org/ocfamain.asp?pgn1=3), Industry Hills is taking horses.They list the following under “Animal Evacuation”

OC Fair Ground is closed to animals at this time.

Industry Hills Expo Center will take 125 large animals (626) 330-0324. They are located off of the 60 Freeway between the 57 and 605 freeways

Orange County Animal Shelter off of The City Drive will take 150 dogs and 75 cats.

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2,377 posted on 10/23/2007 12:24:09 PM PDT by Snykerz
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To: HarryCaul
“Arnie talkin poli-speak here. He’s gotten pretty good at it.”

I just love his Austrian accent.

Very analogous to a very deep Southern accent here in the States.

My mom is from Bavaria and she once she left a message on my answering machine at work. I would play it back for people and they would howl with laughter.

Arnold, being from further south in Austria is twice as bad as a Bavarian accent.

“Ya I am die Gubinator fron das State of da Cauliforlinia”.

Heee heee heee....

2,378 posted on 10/23/2007 12:24:26 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

New fire near Stevenson Ranch per chopper pilot http://cbs2.com/


2,379 posted on 10/23/2007 12:24:56 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SandyInSeattle

See post #2376.


2,380 posted on 10/23/2007 12:26:13 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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