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To: TigersEye

If you will not vote for Rudy Guliani for Prez, you will instead get Hillary Clinton or worse. You have all just condemned untold numbers of fetuses to death, under a Hillary Clinton regime. So your “principles” will buy death and more abortions than ever. Plus new planned parenthood clinics and abortion clinics, which will inevitably spring up under a Democratic presidency. Under Guliani, you will get neutrality, and probably little change from the status quo where pro-life candidates and demonstrations against abortion clinics in individual states have made great inroads. The one area that is under the control of the Prez of the U.S. is appointment of judges, and Rudy has sworn to appoint constructionist judges. If he is the Pub candidate, then that will be a good thing in the one area most important to pro-life conservatives. If you do not vote for Rudy, you will be absolutely guaranteeing the deaths of future babies by abortion, more than you can imagine. So, that’s where your hard-nosed, non-logical, lacking in pragmatism viewpoints will take you. Enjoy yourselves while dooming future babies to an early demise.


805 posted on 10/21/2007 3:24:41 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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To: flaglady47

P.S., I might add, I am not a Rudy supporter. I am a Duncan Hunter supporter who realizes that he won’t make it as a candidate, therefore am leaning to either Romney or Thompson as alternatives in the top tier. But I will never vote for a Dem under any circumstances, and if there is anything I can do to prevent a Dem from getting the Presidency, that is what I will do, including voting for Rudy if forced to. Hopefully we won’t have to deal with this by electing someone other than Rudy as our candidate. But I know what will happen (including on the issue of abortion) if ANY of the Dems get in. And so, I suspect, deep in your heart of hearts, do all of you.


807 posted on 10/21/2007 3:32:41 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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To: flaglady47

For whom do you plan to vote in the primary?


809 posted on 10/21/2007 3:33:55 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: flaglady47
The one area that is under the control of the Prez of the U.S. is appointment of judges, and Rudy has sworn to appoint constructionist judges.

You obviously haven't been reading the whole thread.  No one believes this to be true - his record proves this out.  This is the same smoke screen that Hannity has been trying to sell.  Rudy will appoint the same judges that Hillary would - you are fooling no one. I very much doubt you even believe that - it just does not make sense. A pro-abortion politician who even stated he would pay for an abortion for his own daughter, will appoint judges that will overturn Roe?

 

812 posted on 10/21/2007 3:37:18 PM PDT by gscc
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To: flaglady47
The one area that is under the control of the Prez of the U.S. is appointment of judges, and Rudy has sworn to appoint constructionist judges.

He also said a strict constructionist (as he defines it) could uphold Roe v. Wade. As I recall, he also referred to Ginsberg as a strict constructionist.

814 posted on 10/21/2007 3:39:32 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: flaglady47

Everything you expect Hillary will do Rudy will also do. But Rudy won’t be opposed by Republicans in Congress. Hillary will.


816 posted on 10/21/2007 3:47:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: flaglady47
Under Guliani, you will get neutrality,...

Absolutely false. Just this spring Rudy said he was for government funded abortions. Even Hillary hasn't said that.

819 posted on 10/21/2007 3:49:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: flaglady47
The one area that is under the control of the Prez of the U.S. is appointment of judges, and Rudy has sworn to appoint constructionist judges.

His past appointmenst don't follow that mold at all.

Giuliani Judges Lean Left

A Politico review of the 75 judges Giuliani appointed to three of New York state's lower courts found that Democrats outnumbered Republicans by more than 8 to 1. One of his appointments was an officer of the International Association of Lesbian and Gay Judges. Another ruled that the state law banning liquor sales on Sundays was unconstitutional because it was insufficiently secular.

A third, an abortion-rights supporter, later made it to the federal bench in part because New York Sen. Charles E. Schumer, a liberal Democrat, said he liked her ideology.


825 posted on 10/21/2007 3:55:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: flaglady47
Would Rudy Be Good for the Courts?
Well, Meese was good for the courts, and Giuliani didn’t think much of him.

Attorney General Meese is a man of consummate character. He served honorably as attorney general, and, unlike Rudy Giuliani, deserves significant credit for shaping the legal legacy of Ronald Reagan. Anyone who casts aspersions of the kind that Giuliani did against Meese calls his own judgment into question — particularly when he is asking for us to trust that judgment in picking judicial nominees.

— Robert Alt is an NRO contributor.


833 posted on 10/21/2007 4:05:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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