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To: EternalVigilance; wagglebee; ex-snook; sofaman; Jim Robinson; All
&As abhorrent as abortion is, there is nothing in the Constitution which would prohibit it.;p> The Constitution's Preamble (or premise)

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

In case you don't know how to find a dictionary, let me inform you that the word "posterity" refers to those who are not yet born.

Posterity is not limited to those who become citizens by birth. It could also be defined as those who become citizen at a later date through immigration as well.

The Fifth Amendment (the heart of the original Bill of Rights):

No person shall be...deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law... That means charged, tried, and convicted on a capital offense. How is it possible for a child in the womb to be guilty of a capital offense?

It could also be interpreted that due process of law could mean the state's right to pass a law to allow for abortion.

The Fourteenth Amendment:

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Do you agree with Blackmun that a child in the womb is not a "person"? Even he, in the text of Roe, admitted that if the babe in the womb were a person, that they were therefore protected by the Fourteenth Amendment:

A. The appellee and certain amici argue that the fetus is a "person" within the language and meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. In support of this, they outline at length and in detail the well-known facts of fetal development. If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant's case, of course, collapses, for the fetus' right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the Amendment.

You presume that I don't believe an embryo is a person, although your reference to a "fetus" is quite telling.

Tens of millions of American children have been brutally done to death because of the stupid lie that a child in the womb is not a person. And the slaughter continues every day because of the gross ignorance of ignoramus' like you.

Your again presume to know my position regarding the matter. Your comments are indicative of your basic lack reading comprehension skills. It is you who is the ignorant one.

Perhaps you should go back and read my initial post. Then again, I'm sure your knee wouldn't know what to do.

721 posted on 10/21/2007 12:02:44 PM PDT by olde north church (Epitaph for America: We weren't humble enough to be pragmatic.)
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To: olde north church
You presume that I don't believe an embryo is a person, although your reference to a "fetus" is quite telling.

I'm not sure how. That was a quote from the majority decision in Roe vs. Wade, written by Justice Blackmun.

729 posted on 10/21/2007 12:15:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: olde north church
Posterity is not limited to those who become citizens by birth. It could also be defined as those who become citizen at a later date through immigration as well.

What part of the word "person" is it that you don't understand?

730 posted on 10/21/2007 12:17:30 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: olde north church
It could also be interpreted that due process of law could mean the state's right to pass a law to allow for abortion.

Yeah, it could. If you're a flippin' idiot.

732 posted on 10/21/2007 12:18:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: olde north church
Perhaps you should go back and read my initial post. Then again, I'm sure your knee wouldn't know what to do.

I read your post. Answered it. Crushed it. Now you're just whining.

734 posted on 10/21/2007 12:19:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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