Posted on 10/20/2007 2:08:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
"I speak for at least half the people here, including the Founder Jim Robinson, who has stated he will not vote for Giuliani under any circumstance."
Agree.
Don't Cut and Run, vote pro-life every time. It's the way you always win.
‘We cannot diminish the value of one category of human life — the unborn — without diminishing the value of all human life.’ —Ronald Reagan
Yes they do, and they will (myself included)... and along with them, the Republican party will be irrelevant as well.
Mess with the bull, get the horns...
If the republicans want to win, they'll have to stand for what they say they stand for. That ain't Giuliani.
haha.. you’re beyond naive. You are not offering horns, you are offering at best a nerf dart. You, Dobson and those like you are grossly overplaying your hand, and you are going to become irrellevant. The Republican party will move on, your constituency will wind up completely unrepresented, and replaced by another group who’s got a goal that can be capitalized by the party that currently falls into swing voter territory.
Your new “party” will wind up another green, libertarian, socialist or communist party, completely irrellevant. One issue voters are never able to form a new party of any significance. Parties are not one issue, they never are, you cannot build a majority on any one issue, its that simple.
Good luck with your dillusions, you’ll learn the hard way something that you should already know. This rhetoric of the party collapsing is gross wishful thinking.
Anything that aids Hillary or The Dumbest 46 Year Old Man On Earth in getting to the White House will be hastening the death of a large number of innocent Americans, and possibly the Republic itself. Perhaps it will soon be time to choose between our party and our country.
I'm glad that you are fighting hard against Rudy during the primary season. That said, elections are about allocating power. There is not anything anyone, even someone I respect as much as you, will ever say to me that will make me use my vote in a way that allocates power to Hillary or the Dumbass. I can only work to educate my fellow voters so they don't do anything as stupid as allocating the GOP's power to Rudy.
Actually, I expect that Rudy will not be nominated. Few social conservatives are willing to accept him, and while we may not be the entire base, we are enough of the base to ruin his whole day.
I fear that may be the case. I don't see a guy who spoke at two NARAL award dinners appointing pro-life judges. That said, if it comes down to Hillary vs. Rudy I won't even hesitate to pull the lever for him. So let's all make sure we don't have to face that choice.
I will not dare to be arrogant enough to claim God is endorsing my view of this election. You shouldn't either. I think you're designing your image of God around your ego.
The truth often does hurt. But you seldom, if ever purvey truth. You purvey the lie straight from Hell that carrving a small child up into medical waste is a right, and that opposing such a child murder somehow "controls" women.
I am not "hitting back" because you have "hurt me." I am pointing out reality: You have made yourself look like a fool and you have done so while championing death. Perhaps the reason you sling accusations like "seeking to control women" is because you are hurt when you see the truth that you are on the side of child killers.
LOL! Yeah I've heard that before... Good luck trying to find 40 million + voters to replace conservatives, cuz it ain't gonna happen. It is pure idiocy to believe the party can run to the left when it is anchored by the right.
As your good ship "Rockefeller" drifts hopelessly and inexorably leftward, remember that the vaccuum in your wake will be where the fill-in is, not in the front as you assume.
As you near the equator, half your crew will abandon you for the liberal waters they prefer, and the rest will be content to jump ship into the wonderfully luke-warm water they love so much.
Have fun! it'll be really great without those pesky conservative principles holding you back...
While I do not plan to vote 3rd party if Rudy is the nominee, I have to ask why you think a guy who spoke at two NARAL award dinners is "not pro-abortion."
If you think keeping Hillary Clinton out of the White House is mere "political expediency," you need a CAT scan.
I don't care if Hillary wins. I ain't voting for no pro-abortionist gun-grabbing liberal! If the race is between Hillary vs Rudy, I am voting 3rd party and cracking open a beer to enjoy the GOP meltdown at nominating yet another RINO loser.
Hillary Clinton has got you chumps scared like pre-teens in a slasher flick.
Are you asking people for whom abortion is one of the greatest crimes imaginable to hang up their conscience and vote for it anyway? :o
Are you asking us to believe the only bad thing about Hillary is her abortion stance, and that there are no areas in which Rudy Giuliani is better than her?
Are you asking people like me who believe we're in or headed for a World War to go through it with Hillary Clinton at the helm? Are you asking me to send my sone to fight under her as commander in chief just so I can feel all chipper about my thrid party vote in the 2008 election?
When both candidates (who have any chance of holding power) are pro-choice, the vote is not a pro-choice vote, it's a pro-(fill in other issue here) vote.
I hope fervently that Rudy won't get the nomination, but if he does my vote for him will be a pro-victory vote, not a pro-choice vote.
And when Hillary's in the White House that will help the Republic in what way?
That's a saying for children, not politics. First, unless you're running for office yourself, you're always going to disagree with one of the candidates on something, and that means every election is a choice between two "evils." Second, one could say that if a ship is struck by a torpedo and several sailors are killed ny the explosion, that's an "evil." Sending damage control parties to stop the sea from coming in through the hole would be the lesser of two evils. So what kind of dumb bunny says "I won't send the damage control parties, because I refuse to choose the lesser of two evils"?
I doubt that very much. Don't assert malice or conspiracy when ego will explain things just fine.
The killing of unborn children is evil.
Hillary Clinton has got you chumps scared like pre-teens in a slasher flick.
I guess you don't have a son who's looking for a military career...and will turn 18 while Hillary is in her 2nd term.
I guess you also took big naps from 1977-1981 and 1993-2001.
If Hillary wins, I hope all of you who vote third party or stay home in the general will spend the next eight years shutting up. I certainly won't want to hear any of you complain about how tough life is with her in the White House.
No kidding, thanks for the tip.
I will say it again, a little more plainly so that even if the light doesn't go on bright ewnough for you to see past your ego, you will at least understand my position: If Rudy becomes the nominee, voting for him would not be an endorsement of the pro-abort position, it would be DAMAGE CONTROL. You guys are like an officer who won't take a damage control party to save the ship because he might get his uniform dirty.
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