Posted on 10/20/2007 2:08:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
"I speak for at least half the people here, including the Founder Jim Robinson, who has stated he will not vote for Giuliani under any circumstance."
Agree.
Don't Cut and Run, vote pro-life every time. It's the way you always win.
‘We cannot diminish the value of one category of human life — the unborn — without diminishing the value of all human life.’ —Ronald Reagan
An entire generation has been slaughtered in the past 34 years, those born since 1973 are starting to understand how lucky they are to have missed the butchers knife and they are starting to stand up for their contemporaries who were victims of the American Holocaust.
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Hillary Clinton is running in the GOP Primary via surrogate Giuliani.
Voting against Giuliani in the primary is voting against Hillary Clinton.
Yeah, lets see here, voting against Giuliani is voting against Hillary how? If you and others vote against Giuliani who exactly becomes president? Oh wait, that would be Hillary.
If you cannot see a difference between Giuliani and Hillary on matters of fiscal policy, education, foreign policy and many other positions, than you are either incredibly naive or lack the intellectual capacity to actually reason yourself into a sound position.
“Actually the quote used to learn to type is:
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.”
Yep. That’s the one I learned too.
“We didn’t have Ronald Reagan leading us back to conservative values in 1970. We are better than we were in 1970 and know we don’t have to settle for a liberal liar in Republican clothing.”
Perzactly!
So, we're back to the "our liberal is preferable to their liberal" theory?
Did you know that Rooty Toot was mayor of NYC on 9/11?
Well said. Abortion is the biggest threat to America’s future.
Yes, Giuliani's positions on abortion and gun control are liberal, but look at his other positions I outlined above. On those he is in solid conservative ground. Those positions are what matters most in a president anyway. There's not a whole lot the president can do on gun control given the national political climate, and outside of appoint judges (which Giuliani has said he will appoint strict contructionists) their is nothing the president can do about abortion.
Amen Brother
“We’re not talking about our own lives, but the lives of the innocent unborn.”
True, I was just commenting on the “headline” as it stands. I disagree with it as a general philosophy. Bottom line is that there is something more important than life.
When FDR developed the Ponzi scheme of Social Security, it was always precarious, and increased life expectancy added to the strain, but it was still a feasible program. Then after World War II, the Baby Boom created a huge problem, but even this was workable as long as the Boomers earned enough money and had children at a reasonable rate.
Then in 1973, Roe v. Wade came along and the Baby Boomers slaughtered 50 MILLION FUTURE TAXPAYERS for their own convenience. And now we hear that within a decade, there will be one retiree for every taxpayer. Why is this? Because the abortionists created an abnormal and abrupt population decline and they did this on the heels of the biggest population jump in history.
If anyone is wondering why so many in Washington are willing to accept 20 million illegal aliens, it is because they realize the tremendous strain that abortion has placed on the population. It’s not that they necessarily want the illegals in the country, it’s that we NEED taxpayers. Ask any sociologist what the ramifications are a few decades down the road what will happen if a nation of a couple hundred million people suddenly cuts its birthrate by 1.5 million babies a year.
No, he isn't.
Giuliani has said he will appoint strict contructionists
GHWB said, "Read my lips: No new taxes," and look how that worked out for us.
Bottom line, Rooty Toot is a liberal and liberals LIE to get elected.
Please explain how Giuliani’s views on fiscal matters, education and foreign policy are not conservative.
What Rooty says and what his record reflect are two entirely different things.
Then answer the question. How are his views on these issues not conservative?
Rooty Toot has a long history of saying one things and doing another. His current STATEMENTS are somewhat moderate, his VIEWS are very liberal as they always have been.
And what you seem to overlook is that there ARE conservatives in the race, there is NO REASON to settle for a liberal.
To understand these people you have to see it like they do. Nothing is more important than preservation of theirself.
Me, and what is good for me and my prosperity, outweighs the need of others.
Socially liberal people have no problem sending social conservative people into battle to preserve their own skin and ensure their prosperity. Very few of them volunteer for service to their country. Very few of them sit in sorrow when they hear about the deaths of America’s freedom fighters in battle.
They are more concerned about their stock portfolios and inheritences from husbands.
Innocent unborn are inconveniences and miltary men are necessary to preserve their well being.
In their minds, both are expendable as long as life is good for themselves.
Rooty is their hero, because they know he will grease their wheels financially, and have no problem sending the youngsters out of the people they so despise, social conservatives that is, to protect their wretched butts.
His current STATEMENTS are somewhat moderate, his VIEWS are very liberal as they always have been.
His current statements on fiscal policy, education and foreign policy are solidly conservative. Explain how he is otherwise on this.
Liberals ALWAYS lie.
This perpetual harping on judges is certainly getting tiresome.
Judges are a moot point. Whatever Rudy promises has no bearing, as the judges must get past a Democrat controlled Senate, which will not allow a judge who doesn't support Roe v. Wade.
you hand Hitlery the white house, you can kiss completely goodbye any chance in your lifetime of the court returning abortion to the states, and are guaranteed to condemn millions more to die each year.
Allowing the Republicans to drop their defense of life is what causes entrenchment and utter acceptance of abortion forever, as if that is so, no one will be defending the unborn at all.
"Nonsensical and shallow thinking" is to assume that removing the defense of life will somehow reduce abortion. Your argument holds no weight.
So you actually don’t have any facts to back up your claims that Rudy is a liberal on these issues. That’s nice. Here I thought you could intelligently articulate your position.
The FACTS are that Rooty’s RECORD is textbook liberalism. You want us to accept campaign talking points as facts and that is absurd.
What if Hitlery came out and said she wanted school vouchers, a tax cut and a stronger military, would you believe her?
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