Posted on 10/18/2007 8:41:41 AM PDT by Zender500
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Someone should alert John Stoessel that his latest book is incorrect about this happening.
Labelling kids like that is a powerful brainwashing tool, which can affect how a child thinks about themselves for the rest of their lives. This is why the homos want to get into the grade schools.
Thank you for the post....One more person to add to my prayer list for his continued ministry.
WOW!!!
I have an uncle who was named Frank Worthen. This is NOT him, but the name is uncommon enough it made me stop and stare for a moment.
My uncle Frank died in the 90’s and he was older then than this guy is now.
I’m not 100% sure that what happened was labelling as a brainwashing tool. Sometimes I think it is a good thing to have the words to describe what is going on, so as to better deal it.
The article doesn’t say what, if anything, his pastor did to help him after he told Frank he was homosexual. It would have helped Frank enormously, I think, if he had done something constructive towards turning Frank back to heterosexuality.
But in any case God took him and made him a witness to people who might not otherwise have heard and really listened to testimony.
Well since no one else here has been brave enough to say it yet...God bless this man and his ministry! On this and other issues, I’ve even found political correctness here on FR!
yes that is true, which Is why I think God condemns soo much the act (either visually, orally or sexually or physically) from harming children. They are soo impressionable, and everyone is ‘different’ in a way, we’re all sinners, and no one is perfect. What an evil way to take advantage of children than to teach them in schools that homosexuality is OK..
Having spent the past week in Amherst Ma. I have never seen so many g@y flags and l3sbians in my life. I question their judgement in advertising their deviancy. We’re doomed folks.
The divine love of Christ truly does strip away the hate, and that burden of guilt can be dropped onto His shoulders.
Seriously? The kid was 13 and did not even know what a homosexual was. How dare that Pastor label the kid as such. It sounds like the kid was a gift musician who probably acted a bit feminine, but the Pastor was so far out of line in his assumptions.
I've argued the same thing in various threads and have always been attacked for saying what you're saying. If the right people find this thread, you'll be accused of buying into the gay lifestyle merely by using the word "gay" instead of "pervert." Not only that, but your religious faith will be called into question because accepting a struggling gay somehow means that you are accepting their lifestyle.
I was involved peripherally in the music industry when I was younger (I played keyboards in a band) and got to know a lot of gays. Almost all were miserable in their lifestyle and every single one who opened up to me had either been molested as a child or had a real or perceived lack of emotional or physical relationship with their father when they were growing up. I've heard some very, very sad stories.
Every church should be reaching out to gays and should especially be reaching out to those with AIDs. Not only that, we should help them with their struggle and not require them to become perfect before letting them into the church. Almost everyone has struggled with some besetting sin yet, for some reason, many churches will help people struggling with any sin except for the sin of homosexuality. People will rush in to help anyone struggling with alcohol, drug addiction, past abortions, marital infidelity, or pornography. Yet those same people will run from someone struggling with homosexuality.
It's also how the homosexual agenda seeks to avoid charges of sexual harassment for what they term "counseling gay youth." They want to do the labeling, including labeling parents "bigots."
It's important, though, that the church be very clear where it stands. I had the misfortune for about a year to attend a United Methodist church that, in defiance of its Book of Discipline, bent over backwards in affirming gays and their lifestyle.
They had a "strategic" planning session and announced they were "not going to be ministering to the needs of traditional families." One of the angry lesbians was pressuring for changes actually to the liturgy to "include" GBLT "expression."
The female pastor (the male pastor was a closeted gay man married to a lesbian) did get hauled up for a trial by the church leadership over a book she wrote claiming that God is a female, and she lost, but she was able to continue in ministry and whine about it from the pulpit.
It took me awhile to uncover what lay beneath the surface of the public hypocrisies. We left; but what a tragedy for the long-time families who had given their lives and treasure in membership there. And what a disgrace to the memory of John and Susannah Wesley.
Those with homosexual desires do belong in church, but only if they are there repentant and desiring change; and the church community needs to be supportive yet firm in their commitment to Biblical truth.
I agree 100%.
You don't suppose the Pastor himself might have been just a tad light in the loafers, do you?
Amen. I think I would flee any church which did not actively “seek and save the lost.” Unfortunately, many churches are just social clubs these days.
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