Posted on 10/17/2007 7:48:26 PM PDT by Pikamax
Martin Amis launches fresh attack on Muslim faith saying Islamic states are 'less evolved' By LAURA CLARK and TAHIRA YAQOOB Last updated at 00:55am on 18th October 2007
The author Martin Amis has claimed he feels 'morally superior' to Muslim states which are not as 'evolved' as the Western world.
Responding to long-running accusations that he is Islamophobic, Amis launched a fresh invective against the Muslim faith and many of its followers.
He admitted his late father and grandfather had been racist but then claimed radical Muslims were the real racists, misogynists and homophobes.
The 58-year-old defended a proposal he made last year that Muslims be deported and strip-searched in a crackdown on terrorism.
His latest comments came in a TV news interview last night and during the Cheltenham Literature Festival last week.
The Muslim Council of Britain branded them racist and 'shameful'.
In an interview with Jon Snow on Channel Four News, Amis declared: 'I feel morally superior to Islamists, by some distance. I feel an intellectual distance to Islam.
'There are great problems with Islam. The Koran recommends the beating of women.
'The anti-Semites, the psychotic misogynists and the homophobes are the Islamists.'
Days earlier, Amis shocked festivalgoers in Cheltenham with claims that Muslim states are less 'civilised' than Western society.
'Some societies are just more evolved than others,' he said. 'I am not saying these people are genetically incapable of not being terrorists.
'These societies are arming themselves with weapons like the AK47 and blowing people up on buses and Tubes.'
When one member of his audience suggested not all Muslims were terrorists he retorted: 'No one else is doing it.
'Here in the West we have the most evolved society in the world and we are not blowing people up.
'I am just saying some societies are more evolved than others. Young men in those kinds of societies are growing up full of loathing and hatred. Something has to be done about it.'
'Morally superior': Martin Amis with wife Isabel in June He added: 'I do not mean British Muslims - they are part of our society. I mean Muslim states. 'They used to be more evolved than us, but now we are more evolved than them.
'There is no inoffensive way to put this - by evolved, I mean more civilised. We have more respect for civil society.'
These remarks echo the controversial comments he made during an interview in 2006. On the subject of curbing terrorism, he said: 'There is a definite urge - don't you have it? - to say, "The Muslim community will have to suffer until it gets its house in order".
'Not letting them travel. Deportation - further down the road. Curtailing of freedoms. Strip-searching people who look like they're from the Middle East or from Pakistan. Discriminatory stuff, until it hurts the whole community and they start getting tough with their children.'
Since that interview Amis, the author of London Fields and eight other novels, has taken up a post as professor of creative writing at Manchester University.
A colleague at the university, the Marxist literary critic Terry Eagleton, recently attacked Amis and his father in the preface to his book Ideology.
'Bit dodgy': Martin Amis's father Sir Kingsley in 1975 He described Sir Kingsley Amis as a 'racist, anti-Semitic boor, a drinksodden, self-hating reviler of women, gays and liberals' and compared his son to a 'British National Party thug'. At last week's literature festival, Amis admitted that racist tendencies run in his family, declaring: 'My grandfather was racist, my father was a bit dodgy and I consider myself pretty free of it but get little urges and impulses now and then.'
In the Channel Four interview, he tried to draw a distinction between Islamists - the radical followers - and Islam, the religion.
'I blame Islamists, the ideology within a religion,' he said.
'All the perpetrators, with a few exceptions, are young men from Pakistan.
'Islamism will be a sink for every Walter Mitty of murder, every functioning schizophrenic, every rampant anti-Semite.
'There is a rage which has been building for the past century which is hoping to rebuild its (Islam's) superiority through violence.'
He went on to insist: 'I do not believe in any persecution of the Muslim community. I think that would be counter productive.'
Condemning his comments, a spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain said: 'Amis clearly seems to believe many Muslim communities are primitive.
But just because some extremists have committed terrorist acts does not give him licence to denigrate an entire faith community.
'He should be ashamed of himself.'
He’d better get some advice from Salman Rushdie on how to escape execution from the fanatics.
We are already losing it. That is what all these hate crime bills are about that the U.S. Congress is passing. The liberals in America are already putting the handcuffs on us in preparations of the onslaught of Muslims to which just a whisper of defiance will get us sent to jail.
It sucks! And if Hillary get elected as President of the USofA, we are sooooooooooooooooooo screwed!
What's news in this sentence, is the fact that people were "shocked", when they heard that Muslim states were "less civilised" than the West. What was shocking? That someone actually told the truth? The Muslim world had a short period, when they were open to new ideas. This was closed a thousand years ago, when they decided that all knowledge was in the Koran and that "no innovation" in religion would be allowed. Since then, Muslim mobs have murdered anyone, who advocates ideas not in line with orthodox Islam.
This of course leads to the stagnation of society. An nothing represents Muslim states as well as the term stagnation.
This is what really infuriates me. If any faction of chr*stianity in any Western country were to insist on such a thing they would be labelled "theocrats" and mercilessly attacked. But since moslems are "the other," they can slip "theocracy" over the population and be defended by those same secularists because to resist is to imply that it's a chr*stian country!
Once again we see the foul stench of Hegelianism. Once mankind is divided into a "thesis" that pushes history forward and an "antithesis" that stands in the way of utopia then all consistency goes out the window. Fascism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, racism, "theocracy" are all excused by the Western Left when practiced by the "thesis" because everything they do is sacred, while the "antithesis" is condemned even for upholding leftist values because everything they do is evil.
Marxism is dead and gone for the simple reason that class identity doesn't touch the heart the way ethnic or religious identity does. Unfortunately, Hegelianism is more alive than ever.
Although I suspect even many of them now admit the truth to themselves.
Exactly .
As the delightful commie Mayor of London Ken Livingstone said ‘what they desire cannot be consiously wrong , as they are building a community far from it’s roots . It is the most noble of desires and I welcome Islam
to London .’
Moslems in this country terrorise the Jewish community : -
But hey , its not Nazism .
Moslems beat up their women folk , rape their cousins and pimp their sisters and nieces to others among their community .
But that’s not sexism .
Moslems sexually mutilate girls as young as 4 , while Imams diddle young boys.
But you musn’t call it child abuse .
Moslems force Sharia law upon a western democratic society , but don’t you dare call it totalitarian .
Moslems frequently beat up gays and lesbians , on several occasions pouring indelible red ink over them , but I beg you not to call it homophobic .
Moslems plot against the rest of Britain , saying that if we don’t tailor domestic and foreign policy to suit them , there could be bombs going off , but come on , they are entitled to think like this because we are oppressing them .
I have lost 3 friends recently ; they all said they don’t want to knock around with me anymore because they find my attitude torwards Islam ‘Pro - Yank , disgusting , and shameful .’ One of them even refers to me as ‘Oh him ; Jew - Lover Eddie.’
Appreciate the comment XJones , but causing , or threatening to cause , public disorder , as I did , was technically wrong and I think it only appropriate to point out to FReepers to only resort to it when all else has failed .
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