[olde north church]

The "perfected Jew" is based upon the falsehood of Pauline doctrine. Prior to Saul's, ooops "Paul's" (snicker) "conversion", one of the primary debates of early christianity, regarded conversion by gentiles to christianity. Could one convert directly to christianity or was it necessary to embrace Judaism to become a christian?

Through his letters, Saul, flim-flammed many an audience on a number of topics, including but not limited to: direct conversion, circumcision, Sabbath and dietary laws. There weren't many others who damaged Christianity as much; Henry VIII by creating Roman Catholicism by Parliament, Martin Luther by institutionalizing anti-Semitism, the Millerite and Mormon movements of upstate New York and the tent evangelical movements.

Judaism is just fine. I have respect for a theology that basically says, "When you're ready, we're here."

[sofaman]

appreciate the post, ONC....and appreciate the sentiment.