When you use scripture to interpert scriptures, you see thisshalom b'shem Yah'shua
the word Harpazo GSN-726NAU 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
NAU Jude 1:23 save others, snatching them out of the fire; and on some have mercy with fear, hating even the garment polluted by the flesh.
NAU Revelation 12:5 And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne.
Xenia, I think you have me confused with the people who reject the catching up/harpazo, or rapture. I am with you on that. Where I differ with you is when this takes place. I say it takes place at the last day, the last day of this age. As Jesus said it would in about six places in John chapter six. He said the same thing to Martha in John eleven.