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Why President Bush Sided With Mexican Killers
GOPUSA ^ | October 10, 2007 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 10/10/2007 1:21:47 PM PDT by processing please hold

Edited on 10/10/2007 1:23:57 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The U.S. Supreme Court's hearing of the case, Medellin v. Texas, has reminded the American people of President Bush's terrible tendency to put the foreign interests of Mexico above those of the United States. But the case, being heard on October 10, is significant for another reason. It demonstrates the dangers of passing global treaties and getting involved with international courts and tribunals. The Senate should remember this lesson as it ponders ratification of the U.N.'s Law of the Sea Treaty, which creates an International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea and various "dispute resolution panels" that will inevitably rule and act against the U.S. The Senate could vote on this treaty shortly and the odds are that it will pass unless the American people voice their objections immediately and vociferously.


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KEYWORDS: bush; crimaliens; immigration; texas
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To: ElkGroveDan

I read the article. Horrible absolutely horrible. Those two poor girls.


61 posted on 10/10/2007 2:03:44 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

I’ve heard that Vitter is fighting it but likr you, I think it’s a done deal.

Which is why I’m at a loss as to why our talkies just ignore it. Too many people don’t even know about it and the talkies really need to get people up to speed on it.


62 posted on 10/10/2007 2:04:20 PM PDT by Current Occupant (IF YOU ABANDON CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES, ARE YOU STILL A CONSERVATIVE?!)
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To: processing please hold

Meanwhile, Fox goes on US TV, promoting his new book...fielding questions on O’Reilly and Larry King with answers like (and I paraphrase, but you can imagine the sneer...) — “Mexico can’t enforce US border laws. This is your problem, not ours.” (Mexican migration is natural, right, a fact of life. Get used to it.)


63 posted on 10/10/2007 2:04:56 PM PDT by hershey
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To: SJSAMPLE
It isn’t standard operating procedure to train local policemen in international law/treaties. They have enough trouble memorizing both important and trivial laws and procedures.

Within a border State (who citizens keep insisting immigration is such an important issue? This policy or lack of, clearly needs to be re-thought).

An illegal alien rapes and murders two American girls and it isn’t “intellecdtually fair” in the illegal immigration debate?

Not in terms of where the Gov't current position is....within this specific case (at this specific point and time). This is an issue dealing with the death penalty and a foreign citizen not being told they could seek advice / counsel from their own Mexican consulate.

As I said, I believe our Gov't is involved within this case, as trying to confirm the precedent that American's in foreign lands should also have the guarantee of being able to seek help / advice from our representatives within those countries.

Nothing more, nothing less.

64 posted on 10/10/2007 2:05:56 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: 2ndClassCitizen
Let us not be down on Bush, he is a leader at war.

Got some news for ya: the next several Presidents (and some Democrat Presidents will probably be among them) will also be "leaders at war" -- the scourge of Islamofascism isn't going away anytime soon. ...probably not in our lifetimes, anyway. If (God forbid) Hillary's sitting in the WH the next term I seriously doubt you'd cut her slack with any "let's not get down on Prez. Clinton, she's a leader at war" nonsense.

If GWB deserves criticism then he should get it. Hiding behind "he's a leader at war" can (and will) cut both ways.

65 posted on 10/10/2007 2:06:55 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo ("Hidin' in a corner ...of New York City, lookin' down a .44 in West Virginy")
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To: processing please hold
The U.S. Supreme Court's hearing of the case, Medellin v. Texas, has reminded the American people of President Bush's terrible tendency to put the foreign interests of Mexico above those of the United States


66 posted on 10/10/2007 2:07:10 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: jpl

For all the unbelievable things that Bush has done and wants to do on the Globalist agenda, no Dems are making a campaign issue of it because they totally agree — including the Hill.


67 posted on 10/10/2007 2:08:14 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: A.Hun
If an American is arrested in Mexico and charged with a crime, we would expect them to be able to see the US Consul.

An American in mexico would have the common sense to ask. These are murdering, raping illegal alien bassturds.

If an American goes to another foreign country and commits the horrific crimes that these creatures did, I'd expect them to face mexican laws, not American.

The Supreme Court is gonna figure that out, not GWB. This protects Americans abroad as much as it works to help this piece of trash.

That's becoming a catch phrase.

(I personally think he never deserved a trial, just a bullet.)

(And a second for good measure.)

68 posted on 10/10/2007 2:08:20 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: jpl

It sure has turned out that way.


69 posted on 10/10/2007 2:09:13 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: SJSAMPLE
The police didn’t know about the policy/requirement. It isn’t standard operating procedure to train local policemen in international law/treaties. They have enough trouble memorizing both important and trivial laws and procedures.

Also, in many of the so-called sanctuary cities, the police are not even allowed to inquire whether a suspect is here illegally. It seems that would hamper enforcing any Vienna convention rights.

70 posted on 10/10/2007 2:10:30 PM PDT by writmeister
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To: Navy Patriot

Hahahahaha


71 posted on 10/10/2007 2:10:49 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: i_dont_chat
I don’t know about this one case, but at one time our Houston police were instructed not to ask about a person’s immigration status. And who knows if the killer, when questioned, told the truth. You can’t tell by looking if these Mexicans are legal or illegal. And you can’t go by what they say. They either lie or claim they don’t speak English, or clam up for the interpreter. It is a serious problem in southwest Houston.

All of what you say above makes sense - Seems the appropriate policy for police (in such a case like this, murder) they should error on the side of caution. Simply say, if you are an illegal, you have a right to contact your Mexican consulate.....Nothing more, nothing less. It isn't something that is hard to do, time consuming, putting themselves at risk, none of that.

If that had been done, this scum would likely be, being put to death (as another member of his crew already has been).

Again, It seems are Gov't is simply stepping in here, because they want to make sure their are some protection put in place for American citizens abroad. Nothing more, nothing less.

This garbage and intellectually childish attacks against GWB "loving Mexicans", blah, blah, blah....is just foolishness...and lacks any serious thought. Sad.

72 posted on 10/10/2007 2:10:54 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix

Is your reasoning based on Americans being legally or illegally in a foreign country? I think it would be bad policy to intervene in cases where Americans are illegally present in a host country unless they are there under direction of the American government.


73 posted on 10/10/2007 2:11:13 PM PDT by monocle
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To: processing please hold

“Why President Bush Sided With Mexican Killers”

Because he was raised by an illegal alien Mexican nanny and she was a really, really nice person.


74 posted on 10/10/2007 2:11:32 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: matthew fuller

He is safe , he knows he will have to move on to South America!


75 posted on 10/10/2007 2:11:51 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

If Bush wants to fight terrorists, then he should protect the borders, start deporting illegal aliens, and put a stop to immigrants from enemy nations. He is doing none of this. Just the reverse. A great leader he is not. He is not any kind of a leader. He even called those of us who opposed amnesty “racists.” He is letting Campean and Ramos sit in prison for a nonexistent crime and he gave no meaningful support to Terri Schiavo. Yet he is fighting for a horrible criminal. Sick.”


76 posted on 10/10/2007 2:11:52 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: untrained skeptic

He’s outdistanced Carter by miles.


77 posted on 10/10/2007 2:12:43 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: Dante3

snort, snort. Bush is an apple of Daddy’s eye. New world order type.

He won’t fear it too much. He will move to the family compound in South America. Well away from the citizens he betrayed.


78 posted on 10/10/2007 2:14:31 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: DevSix

“Also, why didn’t the police in this manner, tell this individual (scumbag) that he could contact the Mexican consulate??”

People keep throwing that out in these discussions, but has anyone established that this was police department policy in Houston, or anywhere else? It would had to have been an extension of the Miranda warning: and if you are a foreign national, you have the right to contact your consulate.

This is all very recent it seems, and these murders took place 14 years ago. If this had been part of the Miranda warning for 14 years, we’d all have heard about it.


79 posted on 10/10/2007 2:14:57 PM PDT by Will88
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To: InvisibleChurch
The gist of it was that they were correctly convicted of breaking the law, whatever the law was.

It was a correct conviction. Fourteen years? They should have been dead over 13 years ago.

80 posted on 10/10/2007 2:15:13 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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