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To: I see my hands
They are not your beaches, every beach in the state is public.

I stayed at a hotel in Hana, Maui that seemed to act as if a beautiful local beach was their property. While we were on the beach they had someone coming around to check that we were registered at the hotel. Apparently the hotel does own all the land surrounding the beach.

BTW one of the hotel workers told us that they had previously welcomed Hillary and Chelsea.

28 posted on 10/10/2007 12:05:52 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded
There are no private beaches in Hawaii. All resort hotel beaches are public. If a private individual owns beach front property "his" beach is public. The island of Niihau is owned by one man and is a private island. Niihau's beaches are public.

36 posted on 10/10/2007 12:15:46 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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"BTW one of the hotel workers told us that they had previously welcomed Hillary and Chelsea."

I would have checked out immediately!

44 posted on 10/10/2007 12:41:54 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: wideminded
I stayed at a hotel in Hana, Maui that seemed to act as if a beautiful local beach was their property. While we were on the beach they had someone coming around to check that we were registered at the hotel. Apparently the hotel does own all the land surrounding the beach.

That's usually what happens. A hotel or private owner cannot legally buy the beach, but they can buy all of the land used to access it, effectively cutting it off from public access. Unless you can point to a boat, parachute, or some other means of access other than land to explain your presence, they'll nail you for trespassing. Even if they can't get the police to arrest you while you're actually on the beach, they'll watch you like a hawk and detain you when crossing their property to leave.

Also, most hotels place loungers and other items on the beaches for their customers to use. No matter HOW you got onto the beach, you cannot use those items if you're not a guest. If they see you lounging on one of their chairs, they may ask to see proof that you're registered with the hotel. If you're not registered, they can have you arrested for theft of services (usually they'll just ask you to leave, and reserve arrest for the belligerent).

California has a law declaring the beaches public property, and requires landowners surrounding those beaches to provide some sort of public access to those beaches. Most landowners comply willingly, but the few that fight it usually have a public easement taken against their property to permit it anyway. The logic is that you can't use your private property rights to block public access to public property. Hawaii apparently doesn't have a law like this.
65 posted on 10/10/2007 2:11:34 PM PDT by Arthalion
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