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To: cinives

What about the cranial fracture?


35 posted on 10/10/2007 5:28:34 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Same - hitting the head on the back of the seat, the doorframe, whatever was solid.

I have no idea what type of car they were riding in, nor the path of the car after impacting the tree, but if you look at most cars today (not SUVs or vans) the back of the front seats are so close to the back seat that someone violently thrown forward will have their head into the back of the seat even with a shoulder harness. Add to that the usual scenario that the car spins somewhat immediately before or upon impact, and you have the scenario where the person gets thrown violently forward then sideways.

I know several people who had these types of injuries, one of whom died from brain stem injuries; they were all wearing shoulder harnesses and all impacted immovable objects (oncoming car, bridge abutment, telephone pole) at speeds in excess of 45 mph. Two accidents were at speeds over 60 mph.

Go back to your h.s. physics class and refresh your memory on speed, velocity, trajectory, and force. It’s sobering.


51 posted on 10/10/2007 5:51:17 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: libstripper

Although it’s not in this story, I seem to remember another story saying the vehicle went sideways into a tree. If that’s right, a seatbelt does not stop your head from slamming into the side window. When I was a reporter I went to just such an accident. The driver was wearing her belt, but her head hit the driver’s side window, killing her.


75 posted on 10/10/2007 6:29:22 AM PDT by gracesdad
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You obviously understand very little about injury potential in a MVA. If these children had not been wearing restraints they would most likely be dead. In fact, it is miraculous that they are all alive after hitting a tree at that speed. You seem to have a false sense of security about airbags/seatbelts ets. Brain stem injuries, Spinal cord injury and Traumatic Brain injury would be probable given the details of the accident. I find it disturbing that some feel a need to make wild accusations that have no basis in fact.

Really, I find this whole thread disturbing. I don’t see much of a discrepancy in their financial records. I have 5 children and these numbers aren’t really that odd to me. Same with the private school, my children all attend private school, and our families income isn’t that much higher than this families. (financial aid)

There are plenty of valid and meaningful ways to argue against government healthcare, using factual information. Accusing this family of everything from cheating on their taxes, to failing to require their children to wear seat belts, doesn’t provide much of a case against Hilarycare. IMO it makes us look childish, stupid and cruel. Our argument is not with this family, it is with government healthcare, and this is a distraction at best.


160 posted on 10/10/2007 8:45:20 AM PDT by ga medic
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