Posted on 10/09/2007 8:32:07 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
With pubs bashing Rudy, you deserve what you get. Enjoy Hillary and New York’s way of life by supporting those who prefer to use the system instead of working (or are politicians) and pay taxes while slowly losing all you have worked for.
Hillary 2008!
Don't be fooled. Hillary is just letting Rudy get some licks in. If Rudy's nominated, he is toast. That's why you're not seeing any hit pieces on Rudy from the MSM, only from conservative and far left blogs.
If you don’t support the GOP candidate this is exactly what you will be doing. The Clintons are much more powerful than many realize. The moles in the CIA, the moles in the Justice Dept., the liberal judges that put ideology above the law; these are all byproducts of the last Clinton administration. After nearly 8 years of a GOP administration we still have not sorted through the damage that was done then. If they, (and yes, it is they) get in again they will consolidate power in ways that will make what’s going on now minor by comparison.
Regarding principle, do you believe Juanita Broderick? If so, how can you not do everything in your power to deny a White House address to Hillary? If Dobson is really concerned with morality, and if he believes Juanita Broderick, then he is being entirely inconsistent with principle and ethics to let a rapist have access to the White House again. Will the unborn be safer with any of the democrat candidates than they would with any of the Republican candidates? The bottom line is that if it’s your candidate (i.e. GOP), then even if they don’t share all of your views they are somewhat beholden to you because you are their base. No one survives long going against their base. With a democrat President conservatives will have absolutely NO markers to call in.
And don’t be fooled or deluded by the idea that a Clinton presidency will mean a Republican majority in Congress, as happened last time. The Clintons are politically adept, and they won’t make the same mistakes as last time that gave their opponents the opportunity to round on them. Handing them a gun with the idea that you will be able to take it away from them is foolhardy, at best. Having said all of that, it’s quite possible that the candidate that the GOP puts forth will be someone you feel good about. So let’s not fight about this. Let’s just win the White House.
Thanks troll. I'll enjoy Hillary's universal healthcare. Yippee!
“If that’s the case, then we will bow down to her thighness. If conservatives are truly that shallow then do we deserve what we get?”
Yeah, it’s conservatives fault if wishy-washy small-r republicans nominate a liberal.
Yeah, it’s conservatives fault if they keep their promise not to vote for Giuliani, after giving a great amount of advance notice they would not.
If Rudy loses to Hillary, his loss can fall squarely on the shoulders of those who, knowing better, nominated him anyway.
She’s really sucky. I dont know why folks are so skeered.
Even the Dems hate Hillary
When conservative voices in the congress have dared to suggest that the rate of growth of the EITC be slowed down, not stopped mind you, the outcry from the leftists faction is screaming that Republicans are trying to rob the poor.
I personally know a family, consisting of a man and his son living with a woman and her two kids, filing seperately and receiving around $7,000 between them last year in a negative tax "refund". They flew the family to Disney Land for a nice vacation with the money. I paid for that vacation and so did you.
An isolated incident? I doubt it and it gnaws at my gut that this is happening.
“A little political realism, please. If you think a candidate who breaks up the Republican Party is the best man to lead the nation, vote for Rudy. But don’t imagine, it’s going to be easy to elect him.”
Not only a candidate who breaks up the Republican party, but a party already fairly broken up after Jorge’s repeated attempts to ram an amnesty down the throats of the party and the nation that a majority of most all categories didn’t want, the most recent attempt(s) in cahoots with Reid and Pelosi.
The party needs to be united, not further divided by its presidential candidate.
Some conservatives are smart enough to realize electing a liberal of either party, particularly a Republican, advances liberalism.
Giuliani would do far more damage to the country than Hillary Clinton would ever be allowed to do. Only liberal Republicans can most liberal legislation passed. A Giuliani Presidency guarantees a shrinking Republican minority while a Hillary Presidency likely means a Republican majority again.
So what. I already know that the MSM will be completely pro-hillary and anti whoever ends up being the republican nominee. End of story. Its the same song and dance from the MSM every election. Any criticism they have of her will be soft and calculated to give the apperance of non-bias, but it will be nothing but character assasination on the republican candidate 24/7.
Hillary is vunerable because she’s not the smooth talking Bill and a raging bitch. Debates where the questions aren’t pre-screened, she has a tendancy to stumble and show her true colors.
Giuliani will inflict permanent damage WITH YOUR VOTE. And, there won't be anything you can do about it as Republicans won't stop a liberal Republican from advancing a liberal agenda where as they would filibuster such legislation pushed for by Hillary.
A vote for Giuliani guarantees a liberal in the White House for eight years and Republican minority in Congress for at least a decade.
And, you'd deserve what you're going to get if you allow Giuliani to turn the Republican party into a left-of-center party. Giuliani will set the conservative movement back pre-Reagan.
I think the majority of Conservatives are wise to the fallacy of “ teaching a lesson “ this time around and won’t fall for it . I think Dobson is going to find that his powers of whining will be quite trivial when compared to Hillary’s ability to scare the hell out of most rational Conservatives .
I also think that Thompson is the only one who can beat Hillary , and beat her with Conservative coat tails .
The party in the White House almost always loses seats in Congress. There is no reason to believe the Republicans won't have a chance to regain the majority as early as 2010 if Hillary assumes office.
And, it's hysterical ranting to think an unpopular leftist couldn't be beaten in four years by a real conservative leading real change.
“Hunter did do well.”
Yes he did, and I agree with him probably more than any other candidate. But has anyone from the House of Representatives won the presidency since WWII. How many ever have? I think Lincoln was in the House when he was elected, but not certain.
Senators have had little enough success winning the presidency (JFK the last in 1960), so the even lesser known members of the House probably have even less chance. Plus they might come across as even more political and parochial since they have to run for election every two years.
Preferences might shift some once more people are watching the debates and following the campaigns, but I wouldn’t bet it will change much.
So if Rudy is the nominee you’ll just go ahead and vote for Hillary? That would be the honest thing I guess.
Its big fun to imagine who we wish were on the ticket. But for those of us out here in flyoverland we don’t get to choose who gets on the ticket. That’ll be decided long before we actually get to cast a ballot.
And in case you haven’t been paying attention, the column on our side won’t read “Hunter” when it gets to that point. He’s a good guy, but he won’t be on any ballot that I will ever see.
The IRS used to put lots of resources into EITC fraud. The dims and rinos complained about the number of audits of low income taxpayers. Now it is open season on EITC fraud.
Yes, they do. I’ve been hearing a lot of grumblings from the liberals I know about their dislike for Hitlery. They all want Edwards or Obama. They don’t like her automatic annointing to the nomination thats occuring.
I think she’s extremely vunerable against a decent GOP president/vice president choice. There is no way in hell she captures the southern states or the so called southern swing voters unless the GOP ends up with a total loser of a ticket.
This election is still a year away. I’m just glad we finally got to see the GOP candidates so far in a debate and got to hear what they had to say. I think it went very well.
I disagree. Guiliani will not be much different than Bush. Bush has been terrible about illegal immigration and too willing to work with the dims in some areas. He has been strong on taxes, the war, and judges. Rudy may be more conservative dealing with Harry and Nancy than he would be in dealing with a Republican Congress.
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