[traditional1]

Well, I'm no math genius, but 8 years is about twice 4 years (approximate; it's more like 3 years), but who's calculating to the fourth decimal point.

Bottom line; if you wanna tell me to go back to Daily Kos, you should do a bit of homework.

And, seeing as you've only been here a couple of years, you can be considered a newbie, also.

Years of experience in the trenches here, which you may understand when you've been here awhile.

[dforest]

I would consider old entrenched liberal Republicans a newbies idea of what is wrong with the conservative party. The winning Reagan party. Not the RINO party of 2006.