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She chose it all on the day she died (Euthanasia)
The Oregonian ^ | 9/30/07 | Dan Colburn

Posted on 09/30/2007 10:01:27 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee

She was 62?

You have got to be kidding...

I’ll be 62 in 2010...

My life is still in the teenage state...

She was stuborn? in control?...hardly...

Stuborn is not wanting to miss out on anything...

I want to know who my granddaughters marry and what color the bridesmaids dresses are..

My oldest grandchild is 12 but I intend to dance at their weddings..

This woman was a loser...a failer.. and a coward..

She gave up and gave in and didnt bother to fight...

Life is a gift from God...nobody is to take it..

Its too late for her..but dont you fail to have gumption..

God satisfies with long life...I wont be satisfied till at least 88..

And then some more years...should Jesus tarry..


21 posted on 09/30/2007 10:50:37 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: wagglebee

My mother died of uterine cancer and having spent the final days with her, there was no dignity in the way she died. She suffered greatly.


22 posted on 09/30/2007 10:51:16 AM PDT by MarkeyD (Just another country bumpkin looking forward to Fred!)
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To: Tennessee Nana
This woman was a loser...a failer.. and a coward..

WOW....I guess she didn't suffer hard enough for you.

23 posted on 09/30/2007 10:51:52 AM PDT by alisasny (RIP Lt. Kevin “Kojak” Davis BLUE ANGELS #6 THANKYOU!!)
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To: wagglebee
fiercely independent

Lovelle fits the mold of many FReepers. Her life belongs to her... and not the church, the state or the courts. It certainly doesn't belong to the zealots here who would have her suffer in great pain so that their agenda can be fulfilled. It's Lovelle call.

24 posted on 09/30/2007 10:56:46 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: MarkeyD

The only people I know, that I can personally can say died with dignity were those who died sudden....my mom died sudden age 44 of a brain aneurysm, my dad in law age 66 had a major heart attack in his sleep and my dear friend died age 20 in a naval accident. Everyone else I know has suffered mighty through horrible“life support” in the name of LIFE when they had no quality of life left.


25 posted on 09/30/2007 10:57:49 AM PDT by alisasny (RIP Lt. Kevin “Kojak” Davis BLUE ANGELS #6 THANKYOU!!)
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To: wagglebee
This is a serious thread but I found this rather amusing.

Opponents say assisted suicide violates the Hippocratic tradition of "First, do no harm" and undermines the doctor-patient relationship by turning physicians from healers into accomplices of death.

Some drs. have no problem with abortions. Where's their Hippocratic oath on that.

26 posted on 09/30/2007 10:58:40 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: MarkeyD

I am sorry to hear about your mother.

However, a person either has dignity or they don’t. There is a world of difference between having dignity and acting dignified, there are plenty of people who act and look dignified who don’t have a shred of dignity. Dying with dignity is accepting what God chooses for us regardless of how difficult it might be. The Jews who were starving and ragged as they were forced into the gas chambers had far more dignity than the Nazi villains who would later dress in their best uniforms and commit suicide rather than be captured.


27 posted on 09/30/2007 10:58:59 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: processing please hold

The medical profession has been moving away from that principle since 1973.


28 posted on 09/30/2007 10:59:47 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
I find your comparison troubling as the Nazis had a choice to kill themselves the Jews had none as they were herded into the gas chambers.

So are you comparing the woman in the story to a Nazi?

29 posted on 09/30/2007 11:02:29 AM PDT by alisasny (RIP Lt. Kevin “Kojak” Davis BLUE ANGELS #6 THANKYOU!!)
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To: wagglebee

It is her right to commit suicide. However, those who don’t value death would quickly impose this ethos on those who do not want to die. It is, after all, an easy way to empty expensive nursing homes and save money in socialized medicine.

Personally, I think the better solution for this woman would have been far better pain medication. If it hurts too much to live, then we should do more so it doesn’t hurt too much.


30 posted on 09/30/2007 11:03:37 AM PDT by tbw2 (Science fiction with real science - "Humanity's Edge" by Tamara Wilhite)
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To: wagglebee
The medical profession has been moving away from that principle since 1973.

It comforts me to know that the abortionist will get theirs in the end. When they come before the Almighty.

31 posted on 09/30/2007 11:03:59 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: wagglebee

Do you have any first hand experience with someone dying who’s body has been ravaged with tumors? This is not a tv or movie death where they simply close their eyes and are gone.


32 posted on 09/30/2007 11:06:59 AM PDT by MarkeyD (Just another country bumpkin looking forward to Fred!)
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To: napscoordinator

It doesn’t sound beautiful, it sounds gruesome. Having lost my mother in June after she battled a terminal illness for nearly two years I find this disgusting.


33 posted on 09/30/2007 11:08:06 AM PDT by Yogafist
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To: processing please hold

Perhaps with declining birth rates and declining abortion rates, those abortionists will shift to the euthenasia field?


34 posted on 09/30/2007 11:08:43 AM PDT by tbw2 (Science fiction with real science - "Humanity's Edge" by Tamara Wilhite)
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To: wagglebee

Then you are a stronger man than me,partner.


35 posted on 09/30/2007 11:09:24 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: alisasny

No, I am not comparing this woman to Holocaust victims. I was pointing out there there is a huge difference between acting dignified and having dignity.


36 posted on 09/30/2007 11:09:58 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: tbw2

They already are.


37 posted on 09/30/2007 11:10:32 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: tbw2
Perhaps with declining birth rates and declining abortion rates, those abortionists will shift to the euthenasia field?

It'll be right up their alley.

38 posted on 09/30/2007 11:10:35 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: MarkeyD
Do you have any first hand experience with someone dying who’s body has been ravaged with tumors?

Yes.

39 posted on 09/30/2007 11:11:12 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: napscoordinator

I’d like to address your question of why she didn’t wait longer, before taking her own life.

The article said that she was already having painful swallowing, and she was afraid that if she waited any longer, she would not be able to swallow the meds. I guess they don’t allow the drug to be given by IV.


40 posted on 09/30/2007 11:16:45 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (Your choice if you take offense.)
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