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To: AnAmericanMother
It's sort of like the folks who came from honest Scottish farmers (as I did, mostly) having to invent themselves some made-up tartan pattern

SHHHHH!

Are ye trying tae wreck ta Scottish tartan industry? Don't gae aroun letting oon thet thar ware nae "Tartan Police" in ta Highlands 300 years uhgo, and tha' women spun and wove tartans tae whutevuh patturn they pleased, and did nae jes mindlessly reproduce soom patturn laid down by uh clan chief? Do ye knoo how many wee bairns will wind oop starving, with thar pare parents on ta dole, iffen ye let Uhmereicans knoo that ta custum of distinct tartans fer everuh clan was envented by Victorian mill owners tae increese thar sales?

/Willie the Groundskeeper voice

57 posted on 09/26/2007 12:44:03 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Pilsner
I have vacationed in Edinburgh and find it to be one of the greatest cities I have ever been too. I love that place.

But I couldn't understand far more than half of the people I spoke with.

Groundskeeper Willie speaks perfect english compared to the real Scots.

61 posted on 09/26/2007 12:48:56 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Pilsner
We'll just keep it between us -- I won't tell a soul! < g >

The Great Tartan Nonsense is highly amusing, and as you say it keeps the wee bairns in haggis . . . .

There IS a demonstrable pre-1745 connection with districts, rather than with particular clans, simply because local weavers had favorite patterns. So you often have a general association between the clan that is most populous in a district and the weavers' pet patterns in that district. From that you can have sort of a clan association, but it's pretty tenous.

I wear whatever tartan I like -- my dad's a MacGregor, my mom's a Glencoe MacDonald, but I think the MacGregor tartan's a little too garish for day wear so I wear the blue Hunting MacRae, just because I like the pattern. My husband's "official" tartan, Mar, is not only hideous (purple, magenta, and orange) but also only woven to order, so he wears Gordon. The mill owners still make plenty of money off us (although the better known setts are cheaper!)

Here's a Tartan Finder should you be so inclined . . .

65 posted on 09/26/2007 12:57:45 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Pilsner
...ta custum of distinct tartans fer everuh clan was envented by Victorian mill owners tae increese thar sales?.

Polish mill owners at that.

81 posted on 09/26/2007 2:49:45 PM PDT by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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