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91-Year-Old Jailed 8 Days For Alleged Threat On Nurse
Local 6 ^ | September 24, 2007 | Unknown

Posted on 09/24/2007 5:27:48 PM PDT by decimon

DeLAND, Fla. -- A 91-year-old World War II veteran spent eight days in jail after being accused of threatening his caregiver who apparently refused to let him take a walk around his assisted-living facility.

William Kepler was arrested at Deerfoot Manor Alf, an assisted-living home in DeLand, after an incident involving his nurse.

DeLand police were called to the facility, and Kepler was arrested after police said he refused to obey their commands.

Kepler said officers used excessive force on him during the incident.

After eight days in custody, James Floyd, who did not know Kepler, paid a $6,000 bond and took him into his own home.

"There is no excuse for what they did to him, especially when he did not show a firearm or pull a firearm or pull a weapon," Floyd said. "They just flat took him down."

Floyd said he bailed the 91-year-old out of jail because it upset him that he was behind bars.

"This man here, he fought for his country. He fought for me. He fought for you. That's why we're here. If it wasn't for him, this would be a messed up place. It tears me up," Floyd said.

Kepler admitted that he had a fake gun on his person but said he never pulled it out, according to the Local 6 News report.

"They should have an ethical (manager) in there watching them and correcting them. They are plenty wrong," Kepler said of the assisted-living home. "They need a legitimate, honest person to guide them because they're crooks."

The DeLand Police Department said any force was used because they said Kepler did not obey to their commands.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; leo; police
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To: decimon

Is the wound on his forehead a result of the excessive force? GeezeLouseeeez!!!


21 posted on 09/24/2007 5:49:21 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: John123
This problem should have been dealt in the administrative level instead of sticking the cops on the old man...

Unless they truly believed he had a real gun. This does seem mishandled, though.

22 posted on 09/24/2007 5:49:56 PM PDT by decimon
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To: bert

Most assisted living facilities have very little tolerance for any resident who gets violent, or even a little uppity. My mother-in-law pushed a nurse who was trying to get her to do something and they sent her to a psych hospital to get her meds “adjusted”. They like them drugged up and passive.


23 posted on 09/24/2007 5:50:20 PM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
Too many cops are getting totally out of control. What is happening? Is it all the affirmative action?

I think it's the training. If they consistently follow a set procedure then they minimize the risk of litigation.

24 posted on 09/24/2007 5:52:47 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

A no-account person, needing some sort of power over other people, no matter how unjust or pathetic... “I was scared...”

Well, “nurse”, whoever you think you are, you should be scared. Life will catch up with you sooner or later. Are you prepared to meet your maker? I think not. I suspect that you just didn’t like what the old guy had to say about you and your care. At least I had caring parents who gave me the usual crap, so I wouldn’t be caught unaware.


25 posted on 09/24/2007 5:52:50 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: decimon
Jury call.

better than booty call.


26 posted on 09/24/2007 5:54:06 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: decimon

I am generally pro-LEO, but between tasering handcuffed women and brutality against 91 year old men, I’m starting to wonder what the hell is going on.


27 posted on 09/24/2007 5:54:30 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: decimon
91-Year-Old Jailed 8 Days For Alleged Threat On Nurse

Threaten to do what? Something in his pants?

When I'm 91, I won't threaten nurses. (But, I will chase 'em.)

28 posted on 09/24/2007 5:55:34 PM PDT by Barnacle (Hunter 2008)
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To: Barnacle
When I'm 91, I won't threaten nurses. (But, I will chase 'em.)

Careful! They'll jail you for "sexual harassment"!

29 posted on 09/24/2007 6:01:33 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Andy'smom
Actually I was just going to post that there is a reason why people are in long term facilities. I would not have allowed this treatment unless someone’s life was in danger. If they truly thought he had a gun he had to be contained though. The next step would have been to section him to a psy facility. Sometimes it is a medication adjustment need. It hasn’t got anything to do with chemical restraint. That’s illegal. No way he should have went to jail though IMO. What were they thinking?
30 posted on 09/24/2007 6:02:07 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: decimon
Save your money boys. Someday you’ll want a nurse like...


This!

31 posted on 09/24/2007 6:02:40 PM PDT by Barnacle (Hunter 2008)
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To: decimon

I need quite a few more facts before coming to any kind of conclusion on this story.


32 posted on 09/24/2007 6:05:06 PM PDT by sarasmom (Hunter-Thompson 2008 . It satisfies the senses on multidimensional levels .)
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To: linn37
Don’t you think that there is usually triggering factor that sets them off though? (like blood draws lol)
33 posted on 09/24/2007 6:06:09 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Barnacle
Save your money boys. Someday you’ll want a nurse like...

Problem is you are going to a nurse like this:

.


34 posted on 09/24/2007 6:06:48 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

My husband was a 50 year old mentally ill man on oxygen. He became irrational and violent and I called the police to help me get him to the hospital. He fought me for the phone. He didn’t really hurt me, but we did have a tussle.

When the police came, they instead hauled him off to jail, and reported us to DCF. I kept telling them he needed his meds, and they ignored me. He eventually had to stay over 2 months in the hospital because his levels were driven so low.

I had to pay a lawyer to get him out, and my kids were terrified. I can’t tell you the burden it put on my family. I actually sent my youngest out of state for a few weeks because he was so terrified that the police would take him away.

To this day my kids do not like the police.

I don’t know what has happened to this country that young children are being put in jail for drawing a picture of a gun or doing homeschool experiments. And old, probably irrational folks ditto. It’s the overreaching of the state. It’s frightening.


35 posted on 09/24/2007 6:07:55 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: decimon

I second that.

Nobody is trained to think for themselves anymore. It’s too risky. Nowdays you get fired for forgetting to put on your safety glasses and earplugs. The rules are such no one wants to take responsibility for anything.

What a F* up world this is.


36 posted on 09/24/2007 6:07:56 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Barnacle

My daddy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun.

Don't know why I said that. Just came to me.

37 posted on 09/24/2007 6:13:42 PM PDT by decimon
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To: the invisib1e hand
sound like Florida is becoming a carichature of itself.

sounds like Florida is becoming a charicature of itself.

One more time, folks. Florida is becoming a caricature of itself.

38 posted on 09/24/2007 6:13:51 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: OldEagle

YES! Please explain the marks on his face!!
This is truly disturbing. Our police forces, TSA, arlines, school boards, city council, Congress etc. etc. etc. (even down to Homeowners’ Associations) are taught to be sensitive to friggin peanut allergies, dodgeball, Halloween, Christmas, and imagined hate crimes.
Sensitivity Training in the workplace? Check. Got that base covered too.
Apparently, these “sensitive groups” aren’t aware of those with Alzheimers. Depending upon the patient, their behavior will vary, but most is derived from confusion or disorientation. The man clearly was not dangerous. He simply didn’t follow rules. Whoop-dee-do.

Most of these “enforcers” probably have kids who don’t follow the rules who don’t get jail time.
Instead of every company and govt. agency imposing sensitivity and tolerance training on everyone for every imagined “diss” ... perhaps it’s time that we learn to recognize the signs of Alzheimers. And take some time and patience.

I think there are a few groups you are still free to bash without an ACLU lawsuit:

Old people (some w/Alzheimers)
Christians
Home Schoolers
Rich people
Corporations

Please feel free to add to this list.


39 posted on 09/24/2007 6:16:47 PM PDT by Fizzie
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To: the invisib1e hand

“...did they forget to charge up their Tasers?”

He wasn’t in a wheelchair.


40 posted on 09/24/2007 6:21:04 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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