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To: Smokin' Joe
only 7% of the population is endowed with common sense.

And you base your claim to having common sense on what? Your belief that anyone knows that a circuit with flashing LED's is a bomb? Like Regan said, the problem with liberals is that they know lots of things that just aren't so. Can you have common sense when you know something that just isn't so, like bombs might/must have flashing LED's.

Or is your view that common sense requires behaving in a manner that does not comport with common sense on the grounds that no one else has any common sense?

I have dealt with lots of things that have flashing LEDs, and I have dealt with lots of bombs, missiles, torpedoes and other explosive devices. So far the two piles separate cleanly into one or the other.

I have yet to experience a device with flashing leds that could or did blow up. I realize that Jack Bauer's experience is different. Maybe your claim to common sense rests on the fact that you watch a lot of TV.

119 posted on 09/22/2007 12:44:10 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
For starters, show me where I said one thing about flashing LED's, bombs, circuits, or the like.

You can't.

I didn't.

BTW, If you look at who I am replying to for starters, You would unknot your frigging skivvies and take a nature break.

In between "Private Reply" and "View Replies" at the bottom of the post, is the number of the post I was replying to. Click on that number and you will be able to read the post of Vinnie's I was replying to.

My post being right after your comments (which I still haven't read, because I am replying to your rant) just means that I posted that comment right after you posted yours, timewise, It only means I am replying to you if I am, in which case I will direct my remarks to you so there is no misunderstanding.

As for your post to me:

Or is your view that common sense requires behaving in a manner that does not comport with common sense on the grounds that no one else has any common sense?

When stupid people jump to ridiculous conclusions based on faulty assumptions, and it appears that 93 out of 100 people will (according to the study), it might be a worthy consideration.

Chances are most people would pick up the real bomb to try to disable the TV/movie model.

Now, even knowing what you do, would you walk up to the TSA guy wearing something that looked like a bomb prop from a movie set? Would you consider flirting with the potentially lethal (for you in the above circumstances) stupidity of the general public a wise thing to do?

If not, you may have common sense.

I watch less than 1 hour of TV a week, work on oil rigs, and I have a nephew in EOD, A father in law who did the same in WWII, a childhood friend who was a SEAL, and have handled a few things that go boom in a civillian context, between construction and the oil patch.

I have read some of the military manuals, just out of curiosity.

My nephew and I had a good laugh over the typical TV/Movie 'blue wire/green wire' scenario because we both knew the usual procedure was to either blow the darned thing up in place or move it somewhere else and blow it up, while containing/redirecting the blast effects as well as possible.

But enough about me.

The student in the article, at the top of all this, though, pulled a stupid stunt, which upset people whose job it is to get upset.

If someone could just walk through wearing something which looked like a TV/Hollywood explosive device, chances are the guys named Abdul and Mohammed and such would be lined up around the block at Radio Shack.

140 posted on 09/22/2007 1:29:00 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: AndyJackson
I have yet to experience a device with flashing leds that could or did blow up. I realize that Jack Bauer's experience is different. Maybe your claim to common sense rests on the fact that you watch a lot of TV.

You seem to place a lot of emphasis on the LEDs. Yes, standard military bombs don’t come with lights. That doesn’t mean that a light indicates something is not a bomb.
Back in the mid 70’s I taught riot control procedures. Part of the course was teaching the troops about bombs that might be left laying around the area by rioters. I put together a couple fake “bombs”. I used a car horn instead of explosives. Timers were simple clocks. They also had mercury switches and pressure release switches.
They also had a small light. “On” indicated it was armed, “off” indicated it was not armed. We didn’t yet have LEDs so I used small flashlight bulbs. It was strictly for my own convenience. A bomb today could use light for the same reason.
Several years ago a man in Erie, Pennsylvania was killed when a bomb that had been locked around his neck detonated. He had been ordered to rob a bank. This young woman could have been equipped with a bomb with easily visible arming lights so they bad guys could tell it was still armed.

267 posted on 09/23/2007 3:57:07 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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