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To: counterpunch

Well, as much as I support the NRA and the second amendment, why is the NRA put into a different category than black or hispanic voters by Fred Thompson’s supporters?

Why do Fred Thompson’s supporters claim that the destruction of innocent human beings in the womb, which is a constitutional violation of their UNALIENABLE RIGHT TO LIFE is a federalist issue that needs to be sent back to the states, but the second amendment is a federal issue that is off limits to regulation by the states?


79 posted on 09/22/2007 8:22:14 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
Well, as much as I support the NRA and the second amendment, why is the NRA put into a different category than black or hispanic voters by Fred Thompson’s supporters?

Comparing this to the NRA which has a pretty large number of minority members and addresses the Second Amendment for all citizens isn't really that fair.

A better comparison would be to all the GOP candidates who swing through Florida and decide to flirt with the Cuban swing vote in GOP primaries.

So, "pandering" to Cubans is apparently a Good Thing. But "pandering" to blacks and other minorities is a Bad Thing.
82 posted on 09/22/2007 8:27:17 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
I’m sorry, but you don’t really understand the Constitution very well, do you?
It puts limits on what the government can and can’t do.
You are not protected from a murderer because of the Constitution, you are protected first and foremost by your own right to self defense, as enshrined by the 2nd amendment, which is your right to not have the government take your guns, and secondly by your state’s murder laws.

Whether or not there even is an “inalienable right to life” in the Constitution is moot, because it is not the government that is performing abortions, so the Constitution does not apply here. If Roe v. Wade was overturned, then at that point states could craft their own abortion laws, just as they have crafted their own murder laws.

Do you understand now?
Oh well, I tried anyways.

 
90 posted on 09/22/2007 8:49:07 AM PDT by counterpunch (“I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush.” —Mitt Romney)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
I’m sorry, but you don’t really understand the Constitution very well, do you?
It puts limits on what the government can and can’t do.
You are not protected from a murderer because of the Constitution, you are protected first and foremost by your own right to self defense, as enshrined by the 2nd amendment, which is your right to not have the government take your guns, and secondly by your state’s murder laws.

Whether or not there even is an “inalienable right to life” in the Constitution is moot, because it is not the government that is performing abortions, so the Constitution does not apply here. If Roe v. Wade was overturned, then at that point states could craft their own abortion laws, just as they have crafted their own murder laws.

Do you understand now?
Oh well, I tried anyways.

 
91 posted on 09/22/2007 8:50:58 AM PDT by counterpunch (“I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush.” —Mitt Romney)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

You’re way off. First, the 2nd Amendment of our Constitution is supposed to be protected by the federal government (shall not be infringed...). Second, abortion in regards to its legalizing in the court case of Roe vs. Wade took away the powers of regulating abortion by the States to the federal government. Fred Thompson, as President, would give the powers of regulating abortion to the States, rather than having the federal government deciding everything in terms of regulation, etc.


93 posted on 09/22/2007 9:00:52 AM PDT by ConservativeTerrapin (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

Good questions!

I keep getting the impression that Fred is hiding behind the skirts of Federalism whenever it suits him.


198 posted on 09/23/2007 4:09:27 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Support Duncan Hunter in YOUR State....http://duncanhunter.meetup.com/1/)
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