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Rudy Giuliani gets the 2nd Amendment completely wrong in NRA speech [saved by a phone call]
Vanity ^ | ellery

Posted on 09/21/2007 10:12:36 PM PDT by ellery

Right before Giuliani took his "impromptu" call during the NRA speech, he was discussing the second amendment. However, when discussing the second amendment's language, he mistakenly began to paraphrase the fourth amendment instead! Then he answered the phone and changed the subject. Here's the transcript, followed by the video:

"After all the second amendment is a freedom every bit as important as the other freedoms in the first ten amendments. Just think of the language of it -- 'the people shall be secure' --let's see, this is my wife calling..."

(talks to and about his wife)

(then he resumes with a subject change) "...but the parking decision offers an excellent example..."

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/09/giuliani_answers_cell_phone_du.html

Giuliani forgetting the second amendment in his big NRA speech is a giant SNAFU. In the media attention over the call itself, let's see if this part of the story gets any mention.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2ndamendment; 4thamendment; banglist; buckheadmoment; electionpresident; elections; gaffe; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; giulianitruthfiles; nra; rinorudy; rkba; rudy; rudygiuliani; rudyonguns; stoprudy2008
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1 posted on 09/21/2007 10:12:38 PM PDT by ellery
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To: calcowgirl

Ping — I thought this part of the story was worth calling out...if you think it’s better discussed on your existing thread, please let me know and I’ll ask the admin mod to delete this one ASAP.


2 posted on 09/21/2007 10:14:01 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: ellery

Bare-faced liars often make mistakes : )


3 posted on 09/21/2007 10:19:00 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: ellery

Ellery, you’re a brilliant guy and you’ve got my vote for this being better discussed here. :)

You’rea Buckhead in the making and I can only hope to say that I knew you way back when...lol :)


4 posted on 09/21/2007 10:20:38 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (John Cox 2008: Because Duncan Hunter just isn't obscure enough for me!)
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To: ellery

I haven’t seen the video. Is it possible that the “call” was a head’s up from a staffer that he had just “stepped in it”?


5 posted on 09/21/2007 10:21:13 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: ellery
Right before Giuliani took his "impromptu" call during the NRA speech, he was discussing the second amendment. However, when discussing the second amendment's language, he mistakenly began to paraphrase the fourth amendment instead!

Perhaps he was invoking an emanation from a penumbra of a shadow. This after the Clinton camp declared Rudy's personal life "fair game."

I still see an older, bald version of John Kerry, both in speech and appearance.
6 posted on 09/21/2007 10:21:56 PM PDT by governmentstillsucks (I think therefore I is. Where my Philosophizin' degree at?)
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To: ellery

He’s got to be some kind of whipped to take a cellphone call from his wife in the middle of a speech while he’s running for POTUS.


7 posted on 09/21/2007 10:22:33 PM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Bare-faced liars often make mistakes : )

And bare-headed ones as well. See my post about Giuliani as an aged John Kerry.
8 posted on 09/21/2007 10:23:07 PM PDT by governmentstillsucks (I think therefore I is. Where my Philosophizin' degree at?)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Shucks. I’m just addicted to FR and this campaign stuff. :)


9 posted on 09/21/2007 10:24:39 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: ellery

You got that right. He’s been getting it wrong since day one.

“Rudy was so blatantly anti-constitutional regarding the 2nd Amendment, in 2000 he sued 26 gun manufactures to essentially put them out of business, saying that manufacturers “overproduced guns, way beyond what is necessary for hunting and law enforcement”.”

No thanks


10 posted on 09/21/2007 10:24:46 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Califreak
He’s got to be some kind of whipped to take a cellphone call from his wife in the middle of a speech while he’s running for POTUS.

Whipped by whom? His campaign strategist or his wife?
11 posted on 09/21/2007 10:25:03 PM PDT by governmentstillsucks (I think therefore I is. Where my Philosophizin' degree at?)
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To: the_Watchman; calcowgirl

That’s exactly what the brilliant calcowgirl speculated on the other thread.


12 posted on 09/21/2007 10:25:18 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: ellery

He also pulled the same phone call from his wife stunt in June in front of people gathered for a rally.


13 posted on 09/21/2007 10:26:54 PM PDT by DemEater
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To: ellery

No, no! This is perfect. HERE is MUCH better!

I’ll link this thread to the end of mine (unless you already have).


14 posted on 09/21/2007 10:28:39 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: DemEater
He also pulled the same phone call from his wife stunt in June in front of people gathered for a rally.

Because he's such a family-oriented guy, you know. No need to delve into past marital relations. Show's over, nothing to see here!

Are all presidential candidates this arrogant and condescending?
15 posted on 09/21/2007 10:30:07 PM PDT by governmentstillsucks (I think therefore I is. Where my Philosophizin' degree at?)
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To: ellery; the_Watchman
Repeat from other thread:
So he confused the language and was going to go quote the 4th Amendment until an AIDE called him--not his wife!

BOTH SIDES OF THE ACTUAL PHONE CALL:

RUDY: Hello dear...

AIDE: You flippin' IDIOT! You just said “the people shall be secure...” That's the 4th Amendment! They want to hear about GUNS! Remember? The SECOND Amendment.

RUDY: I'm talking to the members of the NRA right now.

AIDE: Yeah... the wife thing--Good cover. Now, you need to pick the conversation back up and put it on topic. Cut to the part about the Parker Decision.

RUDY: Would you like to say hello? (He laughs, apparently at something she says.) I love you and I'll give you a call as soon as I'm finished, OK?

AIDE: You don't remember the Parker decision? Damn it! Start on Page 3. Just read the speech and quit ad libbing this thing! You are screwing up, big time!

RUDY: OK, have a safe trip, bye-bye. Talk to you later dear, I love you.


16 posted on 09/21/2007 10:33:17 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Great — I didn’t want to presume by linking over here until I checked with you.


17 posted on 09/21/2007 10:33:56 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: calcowgirl

So how is it that you’ve got Giuliani’s scripts on hand? ;)


18 posted on 09/21/2007 10:35:04 PM PDT by governmentstillsucks (I think therefore I is. Where my Philosophizin' degree at?)
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To: DemEater

I saw that — I wonder if there’s any way to collect the full clips from each of the speeches where he’s pulled this trick? I’d be interested in seeing exactly what he says immediately prior to the other calls.

I had thought this was just a way to gloss over his past infidelities by showing how lovey-dovey he is with his wife...but it’s starting to look like something even slimier.


19 posted on 09/21/2007 10:37:04 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: calcowgirl

lol!


20 posted on 09/21/2007 10:38:28 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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