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I guess the unwritten rule is eyeballs, binocs, pad and pencil, —ok

Recording equipment — no.


20 posted on 09/13/2007 5:56:28 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
I guess the unwritten rule is eyeballs, binocs, pad and pencil, —ok

Its not that its an unwritten rule, its no where near as effective, which is why a guy can stay in the stands and knock himself out, but he can't be on the sideline with a videocamera (and microphone, there is a way this system works).

45 posted on 09/13/2007 6:13:01 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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Exactly. Recording equipment, with the modern video analysis gear all teams have, means you can put an image of the coach’s signals on the left and a film of the game on the right, and see exactly what signals go with each play. It’s more like getting a crib to Enigma that just stealing signals, because teams don’t change their signals that often. A whole library of these tapes and a team can seem to read the other coach’s minds. You have to write fast with binox.
95 posted on 09/13/2007 6:49:26 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven.)
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To: Shermy
I guess the unwritten rule is eyeballs, binocs, pad and pencil, —ok

Recording equipment — no.


Actually, those are the written rules. They were also re-affirmed via memo prior to the season because people were complaining specifically about the Pats.
151 posted on 09/13/2007 7:52:12 PM PDT by laxcoach
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I guess the unwritten rule is eyeballs, binocs, pad and pencil, —ok Recording equipment — no.

Has anyone seen that poll taken by ESPN back in August of 2007? The result are very interesting.

Updated: Sep. 12, 2007, 12:46 PM
SportsNation mixed on NFL spying
SportsNation

Maybe if the Pats had just used audio, SportsNation wouldn't be so disappointed. Back in early August, we polled SportsNation on a plethora of issues regarding cheating in sports as part of a sitewide initiative called Cheatwave. In fact, we even took it off the field and asked how much you cheat in real life. If we ever find out which of you are in the 37% that take food that isn't yours from the communal refrigerator, expect a knock on the door. In the light of the recent developments concerning the New England Patriots spying on the New York Jets and stealing their defensive signals, we decided to look back at what you told us before the season began. What did you think of the scenario when it was laid out to you as a hypothetical? Look at the results below and join the Conversation to talk to other fans about what exactly constitutes cheating in the NFL.

The following results are from polls conducted from Aug. 9-10. To see complete list of NFL questions asked, click here.

A LITTLE EXTRA PEEK
Home teams often place video cameras on the sideline to record the opposing team's signals. The cameras are placed on the sideline under the guise that they provide extra game tape for the home team's coaches. When road teams attempt to get credentials for their sideline cameramen, the applications are usually rejected.
69.6% Cheating
30.4% Gamesmanship
Total Votes: 23,606
Your opinion on this issue hasn't changed. After it was announced that NFL commissioner Roger Goodell found the Patriots violated league rules and is considering severe sanctions, SportsNation weighed in with 68% agreeing that the Pats deserved some kind of punishment. Not surprisingly, the voters from Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire, Rhode Island and Maine didn't agree.

SPYMASTER
Most teams send a scout to watch the game of the next opponent. The scout sits in the press box and tries to pick up signals from the other team. The team being scouted, however, will often have a coach on the sideline wearing a headset that is not plugged in, and he gives bogus signals to throw off the scout, as well as the opposing team.
90.1% Gamesmanship
9.9% Cheating
Total Votes: 23,606
So cheating is against the rules, but trying to embarrass the cheaters is perfectly OK. We like where you are going with this one, SportsNation! What if the Patriots had been videotaping bogus signs and found themselves in the wrong formations which led to a loss? Would we still be clamoring for sanctions? Right now, 32% of SportsNation feels the Patriots should lose multiple draft picks and pay a fine. Is that just because their actions might have paid off?

SIGNAL INTERCEPT
After the Dolphins defeated the Patriots 21-0 in Miami last season, Dolphins linebacker Zach Thomas claimed he knew the Patriots' audibles. He wasn't kidding. Teams sometimes will place microphones on their defensive players to tape the opposing team's audibles. The team then matches the audibles with the play the offense runs. In the shutout loss to Miami, the Patriots played their worst game of the season, as Tom Brady was sacked four times. Coincidence?
50.6% Gamesmanship
49.4% Cheating
Total Votes: 23,606
Wait a minute, SportsNation! Let's get this straight. Videotaping signals is bad, but audio is good? So if Peyton Manning walks up to the line and says "Blue 42, Red 38, Green 34", and you know exactly what that means from having taped it previously and frantically compared it to past plays, that's acceptable? How is that different from video?
http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/story?id=3015550

That last one is what lead me to conclude what hypocrates certain people are.

222 posted on 09/14/2007 10:47:17 AM PDT by peterpaul12345
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