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FREEPER MASTER THREAD: Report what schools are doing to prepare for "The Perfect Day" attack
Glenn Beck show ^ | 9-11-07 | dfu

Posted on 09/12/2007 11:17:57 AM PDT by doug from upland

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To: Rick.Donaldson
Don't know why you chose to come after me today, but you're welcomed to do so IN PRIVATE

You attacked first, Ace. I merely counter-punched. Step out of the ring if it hurts too badly.

121 posted on 09/12/2007 2:48:14 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Snardius
...I suspect if we began nuking random muslim capitals, they might assume they're next possibly encouraging them to ally with the muslims.

Why would they do that other than to provide your theory with adversaries?

122 posted on 09/12/2007 2:49:28 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: All

About as generic as I can state it:

To those that think simple magnetic door locks will defeat a determined foe, please reconsider.

There are some here on FR that I know - and a few I’m sure that I don’t know - that completely understand what I’m talking about.

Our schools need dedicated, armed, security forces.


123 posted on 09/12/2007 2:49:40 PM PDT by Backstop73 (Always reading, seldom posting.)
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To: papertyger
I have trouble believing a billion mohammedens will become some mighty army to avenge the guy that got bit after kicking the dog.

OK, then, like Glenn Beck says, "What if only 10% of them decide to fight. That's 100 MILLION soldiers."

Contrary to some people on this thread, I don't think it's a good idea to piss off that many muslims. I'd rather kill the ones that are doing the evil sh*t and ask those who may have some willingness to reform their blood-thirsty breathren to join us.

124 posted on 09/12/2007 2:51:44 PM PDT by Snardius
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To: Sonny M
Destroying Mecca and Medina

I'm reading Lawrence Wright's "The Looming Tower" right now. I was not aware until I started reading this that Osama bin Laden's father built The Grand Mosque in Mecca. Yeah, the big one with the black stone in it. He also built the big mosque in Medina. Interesting thing, that.

125 posted on 09/12/2007 2:56:45 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: Glenn

No, I said you made a stupid remark. You did. I called you a troll, you are. If you go back BEFORE I made my first remarks, you will see that YOUR started attacking others before I ever said anything, “friend”. My name is Rick. I’d encourage you to use it, GLENN. I’ll say it one last time, if you want to debate, do it in private, and I’ll certainly discuss this further with you. Otherwise, punch away, and you’re going to find that I hit a lot harder than you think I do. In other words, don’t continue this here. There are other venues if you have issue with me, stop hijacking this thread.


126 posted on 09/12/2007 2:57:03 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://realitycheck.blogsome.com - and yes, yes, I'm a "FredHead". Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: papertyger
The idiot in Venezuala would like nothing more than to help bring America to her knees. And since there is a growing movement in Mexico and Southwestern US who believe as the president of Mexico recently stated, "Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico." If there is a "Perfect Day" and all Muslims rise up and attack the infidels in the US, I think Chavez and all the looney Mexicans would join them...why not?

And I'm not even considering what China and Russia would do except maybe supply arms to our adversaries. Who do you think our allies would be...assuming this is after we've abandoned Iraq to Iran?

127 posted on 09/12/2007 3:04:14 PM PDT by Snardius
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To: mo

If I know in advance that an attack is coming on my child’s school, or any I can get to for that matter, I’d be happy to line up beside you with my 7mm.

Of course, if we know in advance, then the Marines and Swat Team will be there and we’ll have kept our kids at home. And if it is that open, the terrorists will know we’re ready and won’t show.

Perhaps I should have said it is impossible to defend many thousands of schools against a surprise attack.


128 posted on 09/12/2007 3:05:54 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Glenn
[Tell that to the people of Beslan.]

That was nonfiction.

It will happen here eventually. You can't stop it. You can't mitigate it. All you can do is survive it and mourn it. To think otherwise is to have a God complex.

There are tens of thousands of possible targets and a trillion scenarios. To worry over each one of them is a complete waste of life.


Okaaaay. (rolls eyes)

People in law enforcement, the military, local, state and federal government make and have preparedness plans in place for all kinds of scenarios, as do corporations, businesses, etc.

Understanding the threats that face us and constructing preemptive strategies to deal with these threats is not "having a God complex", it's called dealing with reality.

Of course you can't anticipate everything, but when an enemy has already utilized certain terror tactics in the past with success (in their twisted mind), that rather ups the ante that the scenario will be repeated. For example, Al Qaeda attacked the World Trade Center in 1993 and many knew that it remained a target up until it was hit again on 911.

As far as your statements that "it will happen here eventually" and "you can't stop it" - that sounds like:

1. Defeatism

2. Wishful thinking on your part
129 posted on 09/12/2007 3:09:37 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: Rick.Donaldson
There are other venues if you have issue with me, stop hijacking this thread.

Yes, you called me a "troll". You must know that is the ultimate insult here.

I have no issues with you, Ace. You're just a cat toy. Not a very fun one at that.

130 posted on 09/12/2007 3:10:12 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Exton1

Your approach might actually work. But you and I both know it will not happen.

Not till after something that overshadows 9/11 and Beslan occurs.


131 posted on 09/12/2007 3:10:26 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: doug from upland

Apparently many on this thread have never seen “The Matrix.”

With very rare exceptions, civilian “security” is just not designed to keep heavily armed attackers from shooting their way in.


132 posted on 09/12/2007 3:13:22 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Glenn
Just for you Glenn. Enjoy the rest of your day. What time is it there anyway (where you live)?

IF - Rudyard Kipling....

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

133 posted on 09/12/2007 3:14:02 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://realitycheck.blogsome.com - and yes, yes, I'm a "FredHead". Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs...

...then you obviously don't understand the gravity of the situation...LOL

134 posted on 09/12/2007 3:17:07 PM PDT by Snardius
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To: cyclotic

I believe any teacher who can handle firearms should have one, and also the principal and any staff member who is stable and able. If you can stop an attack even for a few minutes, kids can find safer places (if possible) or escape and wait for the police to come. There sure aren’t any easy answers.


135 posted on 09/12/2007 3:18:50 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: TexasRepublic

Killing our kids will.


136 posted on 09/12/2007 3:19:37 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Glenn
You're just a cat toy. Not a very fun one at that.

Which brings out the exact reason why I called you a troll. I don't know whether it is an "ultimate insult" here or not, but, I've been running BBSes for well over 20 years, since before there was an internet. I know a troll when I see one, and I know from your remarks that you apparently take delight in prodding people. I'm not here for your amusement as a "cat toy". I have no intention of giving you the fight you're looking for here. You want one, I'll happily give you one, privately. You want to make it a public thing, because you're a TROLL, you're a BULLY and you're the same sort of ass I dealt with in Junior High School long, long ago that tried to get someone's goat by calling them a "coward", either out loud, or in your case with your veiled comments. Son, you have no idea with whom you're dealing at this moment in time -- and if you DO, then you'd back off. lol. But, that being said, you will continue to "spar" with me and try to get me "pi$$ed". Won't happen, so if I'm not properly entertaining to you, why don't you go pick on some one more your age. Like 20 or something. 'K?
137 posted on 09/12/2007 3:20:00 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://realitycheck.blogsome.com - and yes, yes, I'm a "FredHead". Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Son, you have no idea with whom you're dealing at this moment in time -- and if you DO, then you'd back off.

Another (long-winded) Internet warrior heard from.

Yawn.

138 posted on 09/12/2007 3:29:46 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Snardius
Actually, I do understand it quite well. I can say from first hand experience of having been in several Muslim countries exactly what the "gravity of the situation" is. As for the folks saying that nuking the capitols of certain countries goes... well, at some point it might just come to that. If it does, then don't leave any of those capitols out, in my opinion.

The fact is, there are some damned evil people out there, and they have some pretty evil plans. If they can cause the fall of the United States in some way, either by destruction or capitulation, then they win.

If we walk out of Iraq, that is a WIN for them, they will advertise it as a win. Bullies do that. The crow when anything goes their way.

The very idea that this ISN'T a religious war is ludicrous. It is, IN FACT a Religious War. Not because Americans have made it so, but because the fanatics of Islam have made it so. When they issue edicts about murdering Americans, Europeans and then those so-called "Moderates" in the USA, like CAIR for instance, sit and WHINE about "equal rights", it is a slap in the face to every American out there. And many of you, Snardius would prefer no fight at all. Like Glenn, who would rather keep his head in the sand, you and he ignore the facts about this entire thing.

America wasn't just attacked on 9-11, it was attacked when the USS Cole was hit, when Khobar Towers were hit, when the Marines' barracks were destroyed in 1983. America has been hit over and over and over, and we've turned one cheek, after another. The people who did each and every one of those attacks were Muslim. There is even evidence that the Oklahoma City bombing by Tim McVey and Nichols was somehow even arranged by "Middle Eastern Gentlemen" (And yes, that's a conspiracy theory and no, I don't BELIEVE it without a lot more evidence, but it has been put out by rational sources and it bears examination).

The "Gravity of the situation" is extremely grave. Russia is pressing the US for another "Cold War". China is helping the idiot in Venezuela, North Korea is most likely selling nuclear material to Islamic terrorists. Israel hit Syria the other day at a "missile site" -- and now that site is being called "a very possible NUCLEAR SITE" in Syria.... Yeah, Snardius, I DO understand the gravity of the situation. It is you, and other apologists for Islam that does NOT understand it.
139 posted on 09/12/2007 3:32:02 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://realitycheck.blogsome.com - and yes, yes, I'm a "FredHead". Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Glenn

LOL... “Internet Warrior”. Well, if that’s your best shot, son, then you win. I’ll leave you alone. hahahaha Name calling is all you’ve got. Not ONE fact. I pity people like you, left winged, loud mouthed, trolling, name calling pinheads. All you can do is insult people. Enjoy.


140 posted on 09/12/2007 3:35:11 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://realitycheck.blogsome.com - and yes, yes, I'm a "FredHead". Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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