[lormand]

"You may hate Ron Paul and every Freeper who supports him with a virulent and unending hate, but we're not the problem. We are a symptom. Conservative disaffection is real, and must be dealt with, for the good of the country."

Unless surrendering in Iraq is your # 1 issue, like so many other Paulistinians, then you are riding the wrong horse.

Most importantly, unless you have been living in a cave, the "Ron Paul" cult is being fueled by leftist kooks, not Conservative discontent.

Want proof?

Read the comments from my Conservative brothers on this very thread. Are you going to next tell me that they are not Conservatives?

[Oberon]

...then you are riding the wrong horse.

Look, at the end of the day we're on the same team, you and I. We're both Americans, both Freepers, we both believe in conservatism and having a healthy, strong, secure country.

I'm telling you straight, from where I sit in eastern North Carolina I know a lot of God-fearing conservative Republicans who are heartily sick of increased government spending, infringed civil liberties, utter inaction or even accomodation on illegal immigrants, and total lack of initiative on border security. Some of these folks aren't even too sure about this war we're in.

You can debate me, you can win at debating me, you can even have me run out of JimRob's excellent forum if you like, but in this post here and now I'm telling you the truth: Conservatives are unhappy with the Republican party, and not just a few, and not just a little bit.

You can defeat Ron Paul probably, but that doesn't solve your problem.