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To: DesScorp; Colorado Buckeye

>>It IS treaty requirement, a treaty signed into law overwhelmingly. Which is why this is a symbolic vote...the Senate knows SCOTUS will do their dirty work for them and overturn it. Meanwhile, they get to look tough.

Too many people here are equating illegal immigration with free trade...which isn’t about people, but goods and services, regulated by the rule of law. NAFTA never authorized increased legal immigration rates, let alone illegal immigration.<<<

What about the people like Colorado Buckeye who are saying it wasn’t approved by 2/3 of the senate and cannot be a treaty?


565 posted on 09/12/2007 4:56:48 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: gondramB
It doesn't matter if it is a treaty or a trade agreement.

There is a method of dispute resolution and that is an arbitration panel and the each nation's judiciary must enforce the arbitration panel's judgement(s).

570 posted on 09/12/2007 5:11:11 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: gondramB
What about the people like Colorado Buckeye who are saying it wasn’t approved by 2/3 of the senate and cannot be a treaty?

See post #201 above for the NAFTA vote. You be the judge. Here is Article II, Section 2 of the The United States Constitution .

Article. II. - The Executive Branch Note


Section 2 - Civilian Power over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, Appointments

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

574 posted on 09/12/2007 5:34:23 AM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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