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GOP version of Kucinich may be key person in race (Houston Chronicle on Ron Paul)
Houston Chronicle ^
| 9/8/07
| Roy R Reynolds
Posted on 09/09/2007 5:30:35 PM PDT by traviskicks
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To: traviskicks
I don’t think Ayn Rand would support Ron Paul this time, Saddam did not represent what she would consider a legitimate government and therefore had no right to continue to rule Iraq, the only question is whether invading Iraq was in our National interest, since it was we had every right to remove Saddam.
To: counterpunch
I think the MSM is still on a mission to convince the rest of the country Iowans are too stupid to have the first primary .(I know caucus smaukus maybe they have a point)
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posted on
09/09/2007 5:54:12 PM PDT
by
kbennkc
(For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know. F Troop)
To: mylife
GOOD ONE!!!
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posted on
09/09/2007 5:54:54 PM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: dirtboy
I don’t see Texas in Sam Houston’s and Davy Crockett’s day being anything comparable to Iraq, however. I think your analogy is quite strained. Quite strained, especially now that the same neighbor is an enemy to U.S. borders and sovereignty, and proves it on a daily basis.
To: Grunthor
I like RP’s limited gov’t ideas, we need more of them but his support among the truther community turns me off. After every straw poll or debate Alex jones is on the air proving that no one voted for anyone but RP and all the votes were stolen by the golablists and Masons
To: John Leland 1789
I think your analogy is quite strained. Hardly, especially given the claim that Paul represents Texas values. Ol' Ron would have advocated moving back to Tennessee.
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:00:11 PM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
To: frankiep
We shall see, there is a very intense national grass roots effort working in his favor, which I suspect will eventually translate into some sort of movement in the polls. For example, here is a recent article, front page in today’s Las Vegas Review Journal, appearing as a result of the efforts of our local Las Vegas Ron Paul meetup group:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/9676197.html#blogcomments
This sort of stuff is happening across the country, see the 2nd article in post 7.
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:00:21 PM PDT
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
To: traviskicks
Timeo Danaos et donos ferentes.
When a liberal reporter pretends to give conservatives advice, watch out. His intentions are not kindly.
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:02:37 PM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: NCBraveheart
I like RPs limited govt ideas, we need more of them but his support among the truther community turns me off.
For what it's worth, he has denounced them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul
Denies involvement in 9/11 conspiracy theories
Some have claimed that Paul believes that the attack on the World Trade Center was a part of a government conspiracy, and associated him with "9/11 truthers." However, Paul has explicitly denied this. On the Mike Gallagher radio show on July 19, 2007 he said "Some people try to twist what I say and turn it into that, and I think some of my supporters lean in that direction, but that's not my position. I do think government's basically inept. I mean we were spending $40 billion a year collecting intelligence and a lot of information was out there. We had one FBI agent, I think sent dozens and dozens of memos to his superiors saying that there are people trying to fly airplanes but not land them, and nobody would pay any attention. So, I don't think that's a conspiracy. I think that's a lot of bureaucracy that doesn't work very well. And, then when we have government investigations, whether it's 9/11 or assassinations, I think the main goal is to protect the government and to protect their ineptness - not - and that is a lot different than saying 'Oh they conspired to do this so they can use this as an excuse to spread the war in the Middle East whether they had anything to do with 9/11 or not.' I don't see it that way. But, I believe some who did want to spread the war would use it as an opportunity. But, it wasn't something that was deliberately done." [40] When Paul was asked by Shawn Wasson in an interview on LiveLeak.com if he believed that "9/11 was orchestrated by the government," Paul responded emphatically, "Absolutely not."[41] Paul was again asked in an interview on Fox news on August 5 if he agreed with the conspiracy theorists; he explicitly said that he does not believe that 9/11 was a government conspiracy and that he does not think the government would stage an attack.[42]
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:05:00 PM PDT
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
To: traviskicks
Hate to say it, but more like the Little General Perot!
To: traviskicks
But, I believe some who did want to spread the war would use it as an opportunity.Sounds like LIHOP to me - let it happen on purpose. In other words, truther.
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:06:26 PM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
To: traviskicks
I used to support Ron Paul before I found out that he was right about Iraq all along.
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:14:41 PM PDT
by
JTN
(‘We achieve much more in peace than…unconstitutional, undeclared wars’ - Dr. Paul)
To: dirtboy
Sounds like LIHOP to me - let it happen on purpose. In other words, truther. Where, other than your paranoid fantasies, did you find support for that?
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:17:27 PM PDT
by
JTN
(‘We achieve much more in peace than…unconstitutional, undeclared wars’ - Dr. Paul)
To: traviskicks
John McCain still speaks with conviction, but everyone seems disinterested in hearing what their cranky grandfather has to say about military strategy and the uselessness of torture. It is hard to take seriously any columnist who does not understand the difference between disinterested and uninterested. The former simply means unbiased; i.e. having no vested interest in the outcome: The judge recused himself because he held stock in the company being sued, so he could not be entirely disinterested.
Yes, some dictionaries have recently shown "lacking in interest" as a definition of disinterested. But they are merely reflecting an increasingly common (but still substandard) usage.
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:17:30 PM PDT
by
AmericanExceptionalist
(Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
To: JTN
Try Paul's own words. Once again:
But, I believe some who did want to spread the war would use it as an opportunity.
Which to me is an embrace of the LIHOP mentality.
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:21:10 PM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
To: dirtboy
Shouldn’t truther be capitalized and romanized?
TRVTHER
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:22:42 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Cleveland Indians: Pennant -15)
To: JTN; George W. Bush; NCBraveheart
Did you know Ron Paul is on the O’Reilly Factor tommorrow night? Should be fun to watch... :)
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:22:42 PM PDT
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
To: Petronski
hey, im thirsty again, where’s my koolaid? :)
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:23:20 PM PDT
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
To: Petronski
Note that nowhere in the Wiki entry does Paul even attempt to reject LIHOP - just MIHOP. Couple that with his claim that some are exploiting it, and he sure does seem like he buys into LIHOP.
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:24:15 PM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
To: traviskicks
“He’s putting principles above party”
-
yeah...islamic principles. Yeah let’s give them what they want and they will leave us alone!
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:27:41 PM PDT
by
ari-freedom
(I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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