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To: r9etb

You just don’t get it. You probably don’t want to.

If you’re fat because of genetics - so what? What then? Wait for a miracle cure that may never come?

In psychiatry, there’s a newer school of thought called Solution Oriented Brief Therapy (SBT). In a nutshell, it focuses on solutions rather than causes of problems. Traditional therapy has focused on long term digging out of past problems to uncover the ‘root cause’. But once you do that, the problem is still there. What most patients need is not to find the root cause, but a solution to the actual problem. THAT is what I am talking about, and what you refuse to see.

Going on and on about “it’s genetic” or “my cousin could eat a gallon of chunky monkey ice cream a day and not gain weight” won’t make a lick of difference in anyone’s life today. If this does pan out, how far away is treatment - a decade? More? How is that going to help one single person right now?

The truth is it won’t. In fact, in the short term it will hurt more than it will help because it will give them an excuse to shrug their shoulders and “I can’t lose weight because it’s in my genes” instead of doing the work. Just like the drug abuser will say “I can’t change because my dad was a drug abuser” or “I had a rotten childhood so I’ll always be this way.”

Right now this research is like traditional therapy - it may be interesting for academic and intellectual purposes, but any benefit is purely coincidental. The real solution is in the present, and it starts with saying “Ok, there may be outside factors for my situation but I can’t do anything to change those things. What can I do NOW to improve things.”

Of course, I doubt that you are actually capable of grasping that, because you’re too interested in being offended on behalf of others and reacting instead of thinking.


87 posted on 09/06/2007 11:25:34 AM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: flashbunny
If you’re fat because of genetics - so what? What then? Wait for a miracle cure that may never come?

Look, son. This is an interesting article. You're not discussing the interesting article. You're just repeating the same thing, over and over.

Nobody on the thread will deny that "eat right and exercise" are good things, when it comes to weight. You're pounding away at something we all know, and none deny.

This article isn't about that, though. And you seem completely immune to that fact.

So why don't you shut up and take a look at what the article has to say. I promise you, it's a hell of a lot more interesting than anything you've posted.

90 posted on 09/06/2007 11:31:37 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: flashbunny

“If you’re fat because of genetics - so what? What then? Wait for a miracle cure that may never come?”

Why do you ASSUME just because a fact is pointed out (or even just a theory) such as there is a varying genetic component to this, that those who believe it or are at least open to it think that means noone has to “eat right” or “exercise sufficiently”?

It doesn’t. It is just a genetics statement.

The problem is people these days seem to see everything as genetics vs. environment, when in reality BOTH influence the outcome.

I could say your approach tends to cast aspersions upon the subject as totally being at fault for being fat.

Tell that to Polynesians and Eskimos.

Again, just because some of us acknowledge that some people just have a hell of a time not being fat because that’s just how their bodies behave, doesn’t mean we don’t think people should try the environmental influences.


100 posted on 09/06/2007 12:11:18 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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