Posted on 09/03/2007 12:31:29 PM PDT by wagglebee
Ha! yeah, but Freerepublic needs to stay open and debating. If I wanted to hear just ONE view I could listen to a tyrant. It is important also to discern the various issues we are discussing and often the pro life issue gets confused with palliative care, etc.
You mean that you disagree with the Judge in Dr. Jack's case?
"Referring to the ''60 Minutes'' program that featured a videotape of Dr. Kevorkian's administering the lethal injection that resulted in the charges, Judge Cooper said to Dr. Kevorkian: ''You had the audacity to go on national television, show the world what you did and dare the legal system to stop you."
THAT is what the peition SHOULD be about...not just refusing to let him talk.
And it is not only liberals who want to discuss these issues. What are all the “outraged ‘..so called ‘normally intelligent posters “ afraid of.??? I am not afraid to hear and debate Dr. K. I can’t stand him personally, but it is important to have these discussions and debate!
Depressed people attempt and often succeed at committing suicide every day. Society and the psychiatric community has ALWAYS believed in treating depression so that the depressed DON'T harm themselves or others. Are you suggesting that society should abandon these principles? Are the depressed simply "useless eaters" who place an unnecessary financial burden on the rest of society?
Really? What other liberal positions should we be "open" to debating?
No, the judge was right. And DR. k is hideous, however, the topic is one that should be discussed. And, if he did his time, he is now free in our society.
The point is he was convicted of murder. Discern all you want.
Do we "discuss" these ideas with the premise that both points of view are valid?
uh, and where in heaven’s name did you get that out of any of my comments.
BTW...we are moralistic Morons when it comes to treating pain. On the one hand we criminalize docs who try to help dying people and on the other hand we yap about how ‘terminal people can be helped with their pain.” Uh, there you go...more hypocrisy.
we should be open to DEBATING everything....especially in colleges where young people need to hear things debated.
Oh, I forgot, they are just going to take YOUR word for it. No need to hear anyone else.
That’s right, just point to how awful DR. K is and shut down any discussions of terminal illness, palliative care, death and dying, pain, etc. The group at UF that doesn’t want him to speak offer NO ALTERNATIVES!
Temporary highjack ~ You need to add Camden, NJ to your tagline. Oh what the heck, add the whole rotten state.
Now, where were we? Oh yeah, palliative care vs. extermination. I agree that we need to apply better palliative care. Lacking that, the solution is not to kill the patient.
Many of those who Dr. Death killed WERE NOT TERMINALLY ILL.
You don’t have to, but each side will have that beleif and it is important, especially for young people, to hear both sides debated so when they hear one side,...like DR. K...they just don’t think “oh, yeah, that makes sense.”
Doesn't make much sense. Where does Dr. Jack fit into your equation?
No, we shouldn't, this is a conservative forum, not an open debating society. And for our rationale that colleges should debate these issues, why exactly do you think so? Should they debate the various "merits" of slavery or cannibalism?
That has nothing to do with his premise...which is what needs to be open for debate.
the anti having Dr. K speak group should have insited on a debate ..THAT WOULD HAVE TAUGHT THE COLLEGE KIDS SOMETHING.
But, of course, no need to do that, just tell the kids “You can’t hear that” and that will take care of it. Yeah, right.
Kevorkian is being $50,000 of public money to speak to the students, without any opposing view. He’s a convicted killer. He got out of jail early because he was supposedly too sick to complete his sentence. But he’s not too sick to travel and conduct a speaking engagement? He should not be allowed to speak proselytize to anyone, much less college students, and he certainly shouldn’t be allowed to profit from the killings. Especially if the tax payers are being billed for it.
Dr. K offers what is really not a solution, but to the sick and dying it is the only solution they have if they don’t get pain treatment. But our society ties doctors hands about pain treatment so it pushes people into the euthenasia camp.
What exactly are we taking MY word for?
- Dr. Death claims to have killed at least 130 people.
- Dr. Death was convicted of killing a person.
- Killing innocent people is against the law in Michigan.
This is not my word, this a matter of public record.
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