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Terri Schiavo's Family Continues Effort to Block Jack Kevorkian UF Speech
Life News ^ | 9/3/07 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 09/03/2007 12:31:29 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
That’s right, just point to how awful DR. K is and shut down any discussions of terminal illness, palliative care, death and dying, pain, etc.

Okay, Dr. Death is good. Btw, I didn't say he was awful, he was just convicted of murder is all. Now kiss his feet.

81 posted on 09/03/2007 4:37:50 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: wagglebee

Well, yes..lets bring up a subject that is irrelevant. sorry THE DEBATE is already going on....and yes, on Freeper we should be able to discuss all issues related to death and dying..no one on here is saying “Oh, just kill poeple.” You bring that up to stifle any discussion.


82 posted on 09/03/2007 4:38:04 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in Philly and Newark!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
But, of course, no need to do that, just tell the kids “You can’t hear that” and that will take care of it. Yeah, right.

What other criminals are invited to universities (aside from drug users, pornographers and other moral deviants) to extol the "virtues" of their crimes?

83 posted on 09/03/2007 4:38:21 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: BykrBayb

I agree with he should not be able to profit from killing people. what would happen to this forum discussion if he gave the talk with no payment?....

the pro life group still would not have opposing views brought in for the students.


84 posted on 09/03/2007 4:39:58 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in Philly and Newark!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
just tell the kids “You can’t hear that”

No, they can hear it from someone else, while another person presents the opposing side. Kevorkian is a convicted killer, who should still be serving his sentence, but was released early because of alleged health problems that prevent him from serving his sentence but clearly don't prevent him from much more strenuous activities, who will be paid $50,000 tax payer money to promote an immoral illegal act, thereby profiting from his crime, with no one to present an opposing view.

85 posted on 09/03/2007 4:40:10 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit. ~ Þ)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Well, yes..lets bring up a subject that is irrelevant. sorry THE DEBATE is already going on.

There was NO DEBATE about the legitimacy of killing the innocent until the culture of death came along.

86 posted on 09/03/2007 4:40:49 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Well, you just go right ahead and pretend that college students don’t discuss and ponder the ethics and morality of euthansia. You are again, off the topic.You just keep repeating the same thing and don’t really respond to my posts.


87 posted on 09/03/2007 4:42:30 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in Philly and Newark!)
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To: bjs1779

you can’t argue my points...so go ahead with your sarcasm.


88 posted on 09/03/2007 4:43:38 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in Philly and Newark!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Dr. K offers what is really not a solution, but to the sick and dying it is the only solution they have if they don’t get pain treatment.

I see. It's the ONLY solution now for your manufactured fantasies.

89 posted on 09/03/2007 4:43:45 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; BykrBayb
the pro life group still would not have opposing views brought in for the students.

I do not believe in nuance when it comes to basic morality. There is right and there is wrong -- and there is no need to listen to anybody try to legitimize what is morally wrong.

90 posted on 09/03/2007 4:43:48 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; Recovering Ex-hippie

Euthanasia (forced and voluntary) was open for debate about, oh, 70 or so years ago. But that was just in theory. When we saw how it worked in reality, the debate was shut down for decades. Everybody knew how wrong it was. But people forget.


91 posted on 09/03/2007 4:44:19 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit. ~ Þ)
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To: wagglebee

nazis, communists, felons etc.

should they be banned? Nope. they should be debated and shown for who they are.


92 posted on 09/03/2007 4:45:02 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in Philly and Newark!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Are you suggesting that FR should be open to fascists and commies?


93 posted on 09/03/2007 4:46:05 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: bjs1779; wagglebee; Recovering Ex-hippie

It’s my nap time. Toodles.


94 posted on 09/03/2007 4:46:43 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit. ~ Þ)
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To: bjs1779

You are not even making sense now. What ‘fantasies” ?
did you not even read I said “really not a solution”? If you don’t even read the responses..forget it.


95 posted on 09/03/2007 4:46:54 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in Philly and Newark!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Well, you just go right ahead and pretend that college students don’t discuss and ponder the ethics and morality of euthansia.

I don't doubt that at all, I simply fail to see why they should be exposed to views that are morally wrong.

96 posted on 09/03/2007 4:47:43 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
you can’t argue my points...so go ahead with your sarcasm.

My point was that he was a convicted murderer. You don't much seem interested in that little tidbit.

97 posted on 09/03/2007 4:47:54 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: BykrBayb

that is why the debate is so important now!


98 posted on 09/03/2007 4:47:56 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in Philly and Newark!)
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To: wagglebee

fine. Then I will spend time discussing these issues with young people. I will encourage them to look at all the various views and continue to discuss with them my moral values. Funny how young kids just “dont’take my word for it.” but I don’t mind taking the time and effort to explain it to them over and over and answer all their questions and viewpoints!

they may just then understand why moral values like the right to life are important.


99 posted on 09/03/2007 4:50:52 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in Philly and Newark!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

You’re a good debater. If I paid you $50,000, would you get on stage with Kevorkian and debate him? Or would you agree with him?

My nap is not going very well.


100 posted on 09/03/2007 4:51:25 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit. ~ Þ)
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