Posted on 08/29/2007 4:59:22 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
Ron Paul supporters are fast making a name for themselves on the web. Not because they are just web savvy, but because they have proven themselves to be the best at hacking on-line polls, invalidating conservative polling data on behalf of their candidate. It seems that even Democrat 527 MoveOn.org is now onboard the Ron Paul anti-war train.
Despite the fact that presidential candidate Ron Paul can not score better than 3% in any legitimate national poll, his supporters claim he is “the conservative” candidate to beat in the 2008 Republican race for the White House. Despite his less than conservative voting record in congress and his Teddy Kennedy like position on the war on terror in Iraq, his supporters think he is the most “conservative” candidate in the race. How?
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Paul is the only one of the three to vote against putting the National Guard on the border. (Bill HR 2586 ; vote number 2001-356 on Sep 25, 2001).. Like many other things, he talks a lot, but his voting doesn't always match his rhetoric. IE, he doesn't put his votes where his mouth is.
Voted NO on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism. (Sep 2001)
I’ll play along...
What would Ronald Reagan do if he were President on the day that international jihadists proved they were interested and capable of destroying America’s financial districts and government and military headquarters while killing 3000 innocent Americans on their way to work, all in 20 minutes using no modern technology at all?
What would Ronald Reagan do after that day, upon learning that those same cells were operating in more than 60 countries, in search of access to WMD’s to level U.S. cities in a single moment, with no warning at all?
I had the honor of meeting Ronald Reagan once and based upon that experience, not to mention his well-known record as a serious national security hawk, I’m confident that he would do more than Bush has done.
Now that’s something I could support!
Yes it does...
FreeRepublic screencaps as seen in altered mode (Javascript/XUL/Firefox): thread, posting comments, embedded YouTube videoAs for the assertion that self-selected on-line polls have been rendered meaningless by those dirty UNIX hippies that support Ron Paul, well, it's completely silly. They were always meaningless. FR itself became notorious for blasting the online polls and annoying the libmedia. The Dinosaur Media (of which the writer is one) have always resented the interference of FreeRepublic with their little cheap tricks to deliver a guaranteed liberal online poll result. And FReepers ruined it for them. Now, FR can barely muster a freep of any poll and all you are bitching and crying that those wonderful online libmedia polls are being polluted by dirty hippies. Oh, the injustice...
No, it doesn't fit the world today, ie, that we are at war. IMHO, Reagan would disagree with how the current war is being fought, but not by sticking his head up his ass like Paul, instead, I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped a nuke on Baghdad. If Reagan went into Grenada, you know he sure as hell would have taken out Iraq, Afghanistan, and any other terrorist supporting country.
No, you’re confusing posts...
The cherry picking concerns cherry picking three current polls, which only confirm what I already said, that Paul has peaked as high as 3%. If you review ALL national polls, he usually has been a one percenter...
That cherry picking...
Never mind, I suppose you were all for ANY legislation no matter what "poison pill" amendments or wording are added to them...
RUN PAUL RUN
Of course, there's that little stumbling block of the Constitution, but hey... it's just a "G*dd*mn piece of paper" right?
I’m NOT suggesting he is a Marxist at all.
I’m simply pointing out that just because “most Americans” want something, no matter what it is, does not mean that this is something worth supporting.
70% of American voters like socialism too....
70% of Americans have been trained by a leftist press to agree with Paul on Iraq.
70% of Americans might hate the foreign war on terror, but not as much as they will hate that war on their own doorstep if we retreat from the war abroad...
70% of Americans believe all sorts of foolish ideas these days...
You are right about one thing, Ron Paul represents much of the foolishness...
Policy comparisons between Paul and Reagan are ludicrous. The most important distinction thoug, Reagan recognized we were fighting a virulent, ideologically motivated enemy, the Evil Empire. Paul does not recognize the nature of the enemy, in fact denies that Islam plays any role in terrorism, and attributes the violence to what is essentially American colonialism. From Reagan's perspective, yes, we're at war. From Paul's, there's no coherent enemy, we're dealing with the actions of individuals motivated by our transgressions. More a criminal issue than a world conflict.
Take it easy, friend. Paul is not going to be the Republican nominee. It would be best if he were to drop out during the next few months, for the sake of the GOP.
I’m with ya, give me liberty or give me death...
But let’s not let the drug dealers take over our nation...
At least, not one of us has been caught doing something untoward in a public restroom in Minneapolis.
I did not mean to imply that Paul was a lefty, though some of his ideas are pretty far out, somewhere. At least he does not claim his first allegience is to the GOP (or does he?), like some other candidates, who for the sake of peace, shall not be named. I was just trying to point out that conservatism, when comprehensively and competently explained to the voters, is a proven winner.
Article 1, Section 8, Subsection 1 (provide for the common defense )
Article 1, Section 8, Subsection 3 (To regulate commerce with foreign nations)
Article 1, Section 8, Subsection 10 (To define and punish offenses against the law of nations)
Article 1, Section 8, Subsection 14 (To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces)
Article 1, Section 8, Subsection 15 (To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions)
....want to keep going? Now, unless you don't consider drugs entering the country as commerce (if you believe it should be legal) or invasion (if you believe entering is illegal) than you may have something..
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