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To: 4CJ
Why not present the quote in context? Or is that asking too much?

"The first inquiries to which our attention was directed by counsel, arose upon the allegations of the answer of Chiles (1) that no sufficient authority is shown for the prosecution of the suit in the name and on the behalf of the State of Texas, and (2) that the State, having severed her relations with a majority of the States of the Union, and having by her ordinance of secession attempted to throw off her allegiance to the Constitution and government of the United States, has so far changed her status as to be disabled from prosecuting suits in the National courts.

The first of these allegations is disproved by the evidence...The other allegation presents a question of jurisdiction. It is not to be questioned that this court has original jurisdiction of suits by States against citizens of other States, or that the States entitled to invoke this jurisdiction must be States of the Union. But it is equally clear that no such jurisdiction has been conferred upon this court of suits by any other political communities than such States."

The question of secession was most certainly a question before the court, as you would have known had you read the decision. Had Texas seceded, the court would not have had jurisdiction. Had the acts of secession be illegal then the court would because Texas would still be a state.

BTW, who had seceded in the Penhallow decision?

628 posted on 09/02/2007 7:28:59 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Had Texas seceded, the court would not have had jurisdiction.

Texas seceded. She was conquered by military force and readmitted to the union. Try reading Justice Chase's words a little slower:

If, therefore, it is true that the State of Texas was not at the time of filing this bill [-----> when was this <-----], or is not now, one of the United States [-----> when was this <-----], we have no jurisdiction of this suit, and it is our duty to dismiss it.
For the first, Texas filed in Supreme Court 15 Feb 1867. For the second, the case was argued 5, 8-9 Feb 1869, the opinion issued 12 Apr 1869.

And Texas was conquered when?

631 posted on 09/02/2007 7:56:03 PM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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