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I don't think you're neighbors were wrong to oppose the rebellion, even at the risk of being attacked as rebels themselves. Keep on reading, and learning, and you may be surprised at what you discover and come to believe.

What I see today as a result of it is sufficient. The CSA was closer to the intent of the founders. Lincoln in effect tore up the U.S. Constitution. Note the withdrawals from the Unions by the states were the choice of the majority living in them. They were done by the state elected governing bodies and vote of the people and as such we as valid as tour withdrawal from Great Britain.

The end result is what we have today. A federal governmnet which is far more powerful than founders intent especially the office of POTUS which is inching closer to become a throne for a dictator. The past seven years it seems there is no power congress will not in direct violation of the Constitution give POTUS nor do they blink an eye taking more and more say away from individual states. That was the Pandora's Box Lincoln opened.

509 posted on 09/01/2007 1:10:32 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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EXACTLY!

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510 posted on 09/01/2007 1:16:45 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: cva66snipe
To the extent that the Founders sought "a more perfect union" it's not clear that the Confederacy was closer to their intent.

And we still don't know if a majority of Georgians or Arkansans really wanted secession. The plan of the secessionists was to drive people into panic to the point where earlier pro-Union sentiment was stifled. Corruption and coercion weren't absent from secession proceedings.

There's a kind of nuttiness to some of the pro-secessionist arguments. Obviously if you kick Washington DC out, you won't have to worry about the power of the US federal government.

But change things that much and you'd have other things to worry about: local oligarchies and strongmen, power-hungry state and Confederate governments, a bitterly divided continent, poverty and dependence, vicious class and racial divisions. I'm not sure that we live in the worst of all possible Americas.

707 posted on 09/04/2007 1:24:31 PM PDT by x
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