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To: rustbucket; 4CJ
What I want to know is on what date this offer by Lincoln was tendered and who actually relayed it the Virginia secession convention. Clearly Baldwin didn't. And the Botts and Baldwin accounts give a lot more detail about the actual nature of the offer, the sine die adjournment, etc. Botts also goes on to say, "Gray is the only member of the Convention that I have met with who acknowledged that he knew anything about the matter."

Finally, Botts concludes, presciently,

"...if any Copperhead in the North or Traitor in the South shall hereafter charge that Abraham Lincoln made unnecessary war upon the South, or that he came into office under a pledge to war upon Southern institutions, his friends may exultingly point to this record for a refutation of the slander, and to show what great personal sacrifices that generous-hearted man was prepared to make to avert the heavy calamities of a civil war, and to throw the responsibility where it properly belongs.

405 posted on 08/30/2007 1:45:51 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Finally, Botts concludes, presciently ...

Botts was about thoroughly pro-Union as you could get. It is no surprise he would be pro-Union in his comments.

He dined on one occasion with Union Generals in Virginia during the war and was arrested shortly thereafter by Confederate forces for carrying a gun on an active battlefield. IIRC, Botts claimed he was carrying the gun for someone else and was released later the same day.

406 posted on 08/30/2007 2:00:30 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; 4CJ
What I want to know is on what date this offer by Lincoln was tendered

I just noticed that at the top of page 195 of the Botts book, the date of April 5 is given for the meeting of Lincoln and Baldwin.

Supposedly Baldwin was a strong Union supporter. But I note that Baldwin early on became a colonel on the Confederate side (see: Col. J. B. Baldwin and Several Balwin mentions under Local/County/State Politics). The second link mentions that people accused Baldwin, who ran for and won an election, of having Union sympathies and of being (gasp!) a 'Hamiltonian' (gotta love it). Apparently his loyalty to Virginia trumped his love for the Union.

439 posted on 08/31/2007 8:18:35 AM PDT by rustbucket
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