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Vick: 'I need to grow up'
CNN ^ | 27 Aug 07

Posted on 08/27/2007 9:30:47 AM PDT by PurpleMan

"What I did was very immature so that means I need to grow up," he said.

He said, "Through this situation I've found Jesus."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: goodkidsdontkilldogs; hepmejesushepme; iwuzjustawiddlebaby; vick
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To: Reagan Man

...and don’t even ask what they sell at the concession stand.


241 posted on 08/27/2007 1:10:14 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: fortheDeclaration

Yes, cruelty is bad. I think the uproar ignores the fact that football is rough game involving rough men with rough habits. It is civilized brawling. For many of these guys, the civilization is pretty much on the surface. The bad thing about the life-style that men like Vick leads is that it can lead to really bad things. He could kill a girl-friend, for instance.


242 posted on 08/27/2007 1:16:09 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: fortheDeclaration

“You guys want to come in and try to justify what Vick did.”

No, I don’t. And you can’t make me.


243 posted on 08/27/2007 1:17:52 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Bosco

[One is a human being, another is an animal.]

...and they were both created by?


244 posted on 08/27/2007 1:20:52 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: kbennkc
He will be a punk in prison just like he is a punk on the outside . He will pay for safety in the joint , like a punk .

Wasn't there a character in the HBO series "Oz" who was a former NBA star? IIRC he also was someone who believed in "keepin' it real" and was convicted of murder. Prison didn't improve his behavior, as I recall...

245 posted on 08/27/2007 1:22:38 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends?)
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To: RetSignman
God, of course.

Your point?

246 posted on 08/27/2007 1:26:48 PM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: swain_forkbeard
Is it EVIL to electrocute people?

Depends what for. There is a purpose to executing people who have committed heinous crimes (usually murder or multiple murders), after having a lengthy legal process, etc. The purpose is to punish and also to educate (others, that is). I cannot see the purpose of electrocuting a dog when a more humane method of killing is available (first knock out the dog, then poison it - the animal feels very little pain vs. electrocution). I personally think that this was done for kicks, an adult (if you can call it that) version of pulling the wings off of a fly.

Is it EVIL to kill a cow by hitting it in the head really hard and then hacking it up for food?

Maybe; no. I personally think that we should kill food animals as painlessly as possible. The kosher laws, as an example, require that the carotid artery be slit quickly, with a knife that is extremely sharp and which has no nicks in it. The animal bleeds out in a minute or less. While certainly not pain free, it is better than clubbing it over the head, and is pretty advanced considering that the method first came into use approximately 3,300 years ago. Hacking the animal up afterwards does nothing to torture the animal in any way.

247 posted on 08/27/2007 1:32:09 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: MayflowerMadam
True. And... immature people who do these kinds of things to animals grow up to be serial killers. [Giving dogs booze]

Not necessarily. They might not be right in the head, but I don't know that I'd go that far.

This guy’s a bad seed and that’s not something people grow out of.

I agree.

248 posted on 08/27/2007 1:34:30 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: stinkerpot65
You judge Michael Vick? Be careful. I don't know Michael Vick, but I know my own sins.

That's rich coming from someone who wrote only 2 days ago:

There are plenty of people out there who value animals equal to or greater than humans. They are not sick. They are evil.

- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1886364/posts?page=23#23"

Physician, heal thyself.

249 posted on 08/27/2007 1:38:16 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Bosco

[Your point?]
If you have to ask, no answer will suffice.


250 posted on 08/27/2007 2:00:38 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: PurpleMan
“Through this situation I’ve found Jesus.”

In over 8 years as a prosecutor, I now have figured out that Jesus lives at our local jail. It must be so, because everyone who spends a month or more out there swears to the judge that they have found Jesus. He must stay at the jail when they leave, though, because as soon as they are out the door, Jesus is the last thing on their minds!

It is a shame, too, because if they really found Jesus, it might do them some good.

251 posted on 08/27/2007 2:07:31 PM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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To: battlegearboat
"Not a word about the poor dogs".

I noticed that also. And I don't think he's sorry about a damn thing, only that he got caught.

252 posted on 08/27/2007 2:12:14 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: fortheDeclaration

criminal, I like that


253 posted on 08/27/2007 2:12:16 PM PDT by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: Fawn

Vicks downfall was all because of a dog. A drug dog. Pretty ironic....

maybe even poetic justice...but ironic is a better fit


254 posted on 08/27/2007 2:15:23 PM PDT by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: dfwgator; PurpleMan
Well at least he didn’t find Allah, so I’ll give him that.

Well, he didn't fine Jesus either - - Vick's a criminal in search of an pass.

255 posted on 08/27/2007 2:20:01 PM PDT by GOPJ (It's not the spelling ---- groupthink's killing newspapers.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
We don't have to judge Vick.

But you do, and you despise him. And then mock his profession of faith, which could be insincere, but no one knows that.

So stop trying to defend a criminal.

I don't. He broke the law and should pay the price. The problem is the inordinate venom for Vick motivated by equating animals with humans - a principle which is denied but obviously felt.

This is purely theoretical, but suppose you were given a choice - your favorite pet dies, or Michael Vick dies. Which would you choose? If you choose "favorite pet", then you equate animals with humans, or rather animals over humans.

Michael Vick is sick, but so are those who hate him.

256 posted on 08/27/2007 2:25:27 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
If I were Vick's agent, I'd be scrambling my ass off trying to keep $2.2 million from flying out of my checking account like a freed pigeon thanks to the ghetto antics of my half-retarded manchild client.

I doubt the agent will have to give anything back. He did his job, and I'm sure he's got some contractual protection against any of Vick's actions causing him to have to repay commissions to the team.

257 posted on 08/27/2007 2:29:31 PM PDT by RightFighter
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To: Ken H

Point taken. I should have written that the belief is evil, not the individual who believes it, whom I cannot know and should not judge.


258 posted on 08/27/2007 2:30:25 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: stinkerpot65
Michael Vick is a human being, and therefore infinitely more valuable than any animal. To believe otherwise is sick.

If that's true, then why were horse thieves hanged in the old west?

259 posted on 08/27/2007 2:31:36 PM PDT by RightFighter
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To: PurpleMan

"You've proved to me that all this ultra-violence and killing is wrong, wrong, and terribly wrong. I've learned my lesson, sir. I see now what I've never seen before. I'm cured, praise God!...I see that it's wrong! It's wrong because it's like against society. It's wrong because everybody has the right to live and be happy without being tolchocked and knifed."
260 posted on 08/27/2007 2:38:31 PM PDT by jimboster (fROM)
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