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To: xzins; George W. Bush
GW & OP, I’m not siding with this at all. I just want a straight up answer about whether or not either of YOU know of any organizing for Ron Paul that is officially or unofficially being conducted by Moveon.org?

Obviously, I cannot possibly speak for the hundreds (if not thousands) of Ron Paul Meet-Up.Com Groups currently in operation nationwide.

I can only speak on behalf of the Central Oklahoma Ron Paul Meet-Up group, of which I am the elected Secretary, and the OU Sooners Ron Paul Meet-Up Group which we hope shortly to put into operation (for south-central Oklahoma and the OU campus).

I can absolutely confirm that there is no formal arrangement of any sort between the Central Oklahoma Ron Paul Meet-Up Group and "MoveOn.Org". Good grief -- we open our meetings with Prayers, conducted in the Name of Jesus Christ: as far as I know, we are the only Republican grass-roots campaign which similarly prefaces its political engagements. We certainly have no interest in answering to the beck and call of a bunch of Pagan Pro-aborts like "Move.On".

It is true that there are some Leftists in our Group -- perhaps 10-20% of the whole (plus another 20-30% disillusioned Independent Conservatives, i.e., formerly-apolitical home-schoolers and the like, with a solid core of about 50-60% "Old Right" small-government Republicans)... but even the few Leftists we have on "our team" are not what I would call Marxist Leftists, certainly not "MoveOn.Org" type Leftists.

They're more the sort of "Anarchist Leftists" who are against both Wars and Waterboardings, against Domestic Spying and National ID Cards, send a few dollars every year to Habitat for Humanity and Amnesty International, and basically just want to be left alone to work their minimum-wage jobs, smoke their marijuana, and stock their ammunition collections in their basement apartments (you actually might be surpised at how many Republican-hating Leftists are also fierce Second-Amendment Gun Nuts. They don't all want Hillary to run their lives for them, believe it or not).

And, to the extent of eliminating the 80-90% of Federal Government Spending which is UnConstitutional, I have to admit that I agree with the Leftist-Anarchists. We can argue about the 10-20% of the Federal Government which IS authorized by the Constitution when we get to that point; for now, the time has come for radical surgery.

But are we operating in co-operation with "MoveOn.Org"? Not one bloody iota. I haven't seen one dollar from George Soros yet, that skinflint bastard. And neither have any of us -- we few, we happy few, we band of brothers.

At the end of the day, about the ONLY thing that the Leftists and the Rightists of the Ron Paul Campaign can agree on is this: We all want a LOT LESS Federal Governance. Other than that, it's like herding cats! (Believe me, I know).

The idea that we could work together with "MoveOn.Org", even if we wanted to, for even one second... is downright funny. There is one cement holding this entire movement together, and that's the person of Dr. Ron Paul himself. He's Pro-Life, Pro-Gun Rights, Pro-Borders, Pro-Property Rights, and pretty much wants everything else to be decided on the State or Individual Level.

That is the only Glue which is holding the Right and Left together in the Ron Paul Coalition. "MoveOn.Org" doesn't have a chance of managing us -- sheesh, we can barely even manage ourselves.

Best Regards,

OP
Secretary
Central Oklahoma Ron Paul Meet-Up.Com

675 posted on 08/27/2007 4:57:04 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Answer to charges of meeting with "MoveOn" -- see my #675.

Perhaps the Purge has begun; but nonetheless, I will give my Answer.

676 posted on 08/27/2007 4:59:58 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; George W. Bush

Your answer is roughly the same as GWB’s, and is as I suspected.

If there are any RP supporters with MoveOn ties, then they are aberrations and, by no means, representative of any RP support group.

Thanks for responding.


678 posted on 08/27/2007 5:30:38 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
"MoveOn.Org" doesn't have a chance of managing us -- sheesh, we can barely even manage ourselves. LOL! You had better set EEE straight, because he claims Moveon moonbats are trying to "snooker" Paul supporters. The question isn't whether or not Moveon.org controls you --- the question is do Ron Paul activists use Moveon.org events as a means for recruiting voters to Paul?
703 posted on 08/27/2007 7:47:20 AM PDT by soccermom
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