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To: knarf
I think you might see inner city kids, feeling hopeless and forgotten, (isn't that the mantra ? ) opt to take a wise employer up on a 'Job Corps' type of offer, move their ambitious but idle asses out to the big sky country and LO! .. perhaps actually develop a taste for life and freedom and become productive members of this great land.

Unfortunately, by the time they reach the appropriate age, a lot of them have been ruined by the "culture" they've been raised in. No one wants to import trouble.

38 posted on 08/25/2007 6:39:49 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: JimRed
Damn!

I hate it when my idealism gets waylaid by reality.

40 posted on 08/25/2007 6:42:56 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: JimRed
I think you might see inner city kids, feeling hopeless and forgotten, (isn't that the mantra ? ) opt to take a wise employer up on a 'Job Corps' type of offer, move their ambitious but idle asses out to the big sky country and LO! .. perhaps actually develop a taste for life and freedom and become productive members of this great land.

Unfortunately, by the time they reach the appropriate age, a lot of them have been ruined by the "culture" they've been raised in. No one wants to import trouble.

Well, from what I have seen, trying to help out my Niece and get her back on track from the ages of 18 to 28 and then finally giving up... People by a certain age do adopt a value system and a certain level of expectations that is very hard to change. And tied in with that is something we refer to as "culture". The net effect of this is that they are not going to leave their familiar surroundings or go where people are quite a bit different then the crowd and friends they are used to hanging with.

For example - you can go so far as to get a person a place to live in the lower crime and more family oriented suburbs, but if their cuture is hanging out with their thug friends on the weekend and partying, then that's who they are going to be visiting in their spare time. Or worse, they will invite their friends to come up and visit them - and that is the "importing trouble" bit.

If you want to help someone, you have got to pick and choose someone that "doesn't fit in" with the trouble-makers, slackers, thugs, etc. Someone who is perhaps the target of being picked on and harassed for not being with the rest of the low expectations and entitlement mentality crowd in the community and culture around them.

That is the kind of person you can help by affording them a change of location and lifestyle. Anyone else will just try to make the new place like the one they just left...

117 posted on 08/25/2007 11:12:07 AM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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