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To: RKV

If you want to improve someones morals better to convert them to Christianity than to expect the government to do the job.

Of course. The problem comes when here are those who won’t exercise self control. Should society allow itself to become victim to these people or should society restrain those who refuse o restrain themselves?


37 posted on 08/21/2007 12:12:19 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter '08 Pro family, pro life, pro second Amendment, not a control freak.)
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To: freedomfiter2

Get the government out of the business of subsidizing those who won’t exercise self control and we will see some improvement. For instance, end all government welfare, and thereby quit subsidizing illegitimacy and we’ll see a huge reduction in it. Stop requiring that hospitals take all comers, regardless of ability to pay, etc. We don’t need more laws, in fact we need many fewer laws.


47 posted on 08/21/2007 12:19:40 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: freedomfiter2

Society may properly use the force of government to regulate PUBLIC BEHAVIORS, but that is ALL. What someone does, either alone or with others who are capable of and do give consent, is NOT the business of you, me or government, period. If that PRIVATE activity spills over into some sort of public arena, then and only then may society allow government to step in and put a stop to the public aspects of it... such as not allowing a person to drink on a public street, fornicate where he or she might scare the women, children and horses, or operate machinery after becoming intoxicated, where there is grave danger to others not otherwise involved in whatever activity has been going on. Or discharging a firearm or weapon in public and it’s not an emergency. Otherwise, the only legitimate recourse YOU have is to either live with the situation... as freedom can sometimes get a little messy... or use your powers of moral suasion to convince your neighbors that their behaviors are not good for them... but initiating force, either personally or through government, to get someone outside yourself and your immediate family to act as YOU think is proper is totally anathema to a free society AND the Constitutional Republic we once had in this nation. In a free society, even PROPOSING such “laws” would be good for a tarring and feathering AT THE LEAST.


389 posted on 08/22/2007 4:36:34 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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