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To: Doe Eyes; AwesomePossum; tacticalogic
the founding fathers were very aware of the laws of God

The Founding Fathers believed that a republic could not function without Christian virtue being common in its people. Or, as James Madison once said, "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

Our system of government will not work without the influence of Christians. However, it will also not work if we use government to legislate people into being good. Neither end of the spectrum is workable.

Government can never effect Christian virtue in the people. You might not like it, but that is a simple indisputable fact. Virtue is a choice of the people; law is in place to prevent others from infringing on a person's God-given inalienable rights.

Our Republic does not stand or fall on the virtuousness of its laws; it stands or falls on the virtuosness of its people.
239 posted on 08/21/2007 7:14:24 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Keep your friends close; keep your enemies at optimal engagement range)
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To: JamesP81
Our system of government will not work without the influence of Christians. However, it will also not work if we use government to legislate people into being good. Neither end of the spectrum is workable. Government can never effect Christian virtue in the people.

Sorry, but people are "forced" (as in legislated) into "being good" all across America every day of every year........most people, for example, drive on the roadways at legislated speeds, however, there are some who refuse to drive at legislated speeds, and they get a legislated ticket, appear in legislated court and pay a legislated fine.....or else they go to legislated jail. This seems to work, in most cases, legislating people to "be good" on the roadways.

People are NOT "forced" (legislated) to be Christians, as provided for in Amendment I of the U.S. Constitution, however, the laws of this country (local, state and federal) are influenced by the morality of its citizens..........What part of this don't you understand?

I would rather live under laws influenced by (modeled after, in tune with) our Creator than live under laws made by men who think they are smarter than God.

For further explanation, see reply # 258.............

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262 posted on 08/22/2007 3:11:44 AM PDT by AwesomePossum
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