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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Support for homosexual marriages and rights, abortion, and gun control are hardly views of Classical liberalism. They’re not even libertarian. These are socialist positions.”

*Laughing*

They are issues that will be worked out by the processes of Classical Liberalism, i.e. free and open debate and the consent of the governed. Your opposition to even diuscussing these things (except on your own terms, that is, to ban them because they don’t conform to your vision of what is right) is closer to socialism than anything I can think of at the moment.


24 posted on 08/19/2007 10:38:30 AM PDT by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: Wombat101
*Laughing*

The Viking Kitties will have the last laugh, though.

They are issues that will be worked out by the processes of Classical Liberalism, i.e. free and open debate and the consent of the governed.

Wrong. Abortion on demand, homosexual rights, and gun control are in direct violation of classical liberalism.

Wikipedia Classical liberalism (also known as traditional liberalism[1] and laissez-faire liberalism[2]) is a doctrine stressing the importance of human rationality, individual property rights, natural rights, the protection of civil liberties, constitutional limitations of government, free markets, and individual freedom

Please show me where the positions held by Rudy fit into this.

Your opposition to even diuscussing these things (except on your own terms, that is, to ban them because they don’t conform to your vision of what is right) is closer to socialism than anything I can think of at the moment.

Abortion, gun control, and homosexual rights are positions that are incompatible to our Constitutional Republic and traditions.

31 posted on 08/19/2007 10:55:39 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Wombat101
Your opposition to even diuscussing these things (except on your own terms, that is, to ban them because they don’t conform to your vision of what is right) is closer to socialism than anything I can think of at the moment.

READ the Constitution for yourself...

Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress;...

126 posted on 08/19/2007 8:14:21 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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