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To: Captain Kirk
It does not matter what L. Ron Paulie SAYS. What matters is what he DOES. His policy would reserve abortion to those states that will continue to tolerate it and make NYC, LA, Chicago and a few other benighted impacted leftist areas the (you should pardon the expression) Meccas of American abortion. No thanks! SCOTUS federalized this issue and abused the 14th Amendment to do so. We will be using the 14th Amendment Equal Protection clause as well as the fulcrum and a definition of personhood including the unborn as persons to punch the ticket on abortion NATIONALLY. In addition to appropriate criminal penalties for the hired killers, we can repeal the FACE Act while using it and RICO as the basis for federal court jurisdiction to impose injunctions with the usual draconian CIVIL penalties for violations, penalties imposed for contempt of court and NOT requiring jury verdicts, thus avoiding the "jury nullification" strategy.

Isn't Grover Norquist the guy who runs the National Taxpayers' Union? Isn't he the one who converted to Islam when he married a Muslim woman? Whatever could his agenda be in scrubbing the Galveston shrimpin' porkmeister? On top of which, what is mere money compared to 50 million + innocent unborn humans sliced, diced and hamburgerized while paleoPaulie poses for holy pictures as a pro-lifer but resists any meaningful attempt to put an end to the slaughter on the basis of faux "constitutionalist" fussiness???

There are areas like the protection of the innocent human lives of each and every person where the constitution itself provides national jurisdiction.

191 posted on 08/17/2007 1:37:42 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
SCOTUS federalized this issue and abused the 14th Amendment to do so.

we can repeal the FACE Act while using it and RICO as the basis for federal court jurisdiction to impose injunctions with the usual draconian CIVIL penalties for violations, penalties imposed for contempt of court and NOT requiring jury verdicts

Would your strategy also be "abusing" the 14th amendment? How would you ensure that your strategy was not adopted for other Federal (ab)uses? I know RICO has been used to hound abortion protestors. Doesn't your strategy just say "any means to the end, so long as WE are in power?"

Why on earth would you think a sweeping federal power to deprive defendants of jury verdicts is a good thing, or would be relinquished once your goals were met?

202 posted on 08/17/2007 1:51:02 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: BlackElk
It does not matter what L. Ron Paulie SAYS. What matters is what he DOES. His policy would reserve abortion to those states that will continue to tolerate it and make NYC, LA, Chicago and a few other benighted impacted leftist areas the (you should pardon the expression) Meccas of American abortion.

With unfettered access for minors from other states without parental consent. It's Article something or other of the Constitution.

247 posted on 08/17/2007 2:43:18 PM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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