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Rudy Giuliani: [A] Nasty Man, Even to His Kids
New York Magazine ^ | 8/15/7 2:07PM EST | In Other News section

Posted on 08/15/2007 2:19:08 PM PDT by hardback

Wayne Barrett, the professional anti-Giuliani, has a piece in this week's Village Voice considering what might have made America's Mayor's daughter, Caroline, grow up to be a Barack Obama supporter.

Some fun details of life at home with the Giulianis:

1. Rudy brought Caroline to City Hall on Take Your Daughters to Work Day in 1994 and 1995, his first two years as mayor, but never again — because by 1996 "the relationship between Giuliani and his twentysomething press secretary had so poisoned the marriage that all such family events were impossible."

2. The Giulianis went on a family vacation after he was elected in 1993 — and then never did again.

3. On Father's Day 1995, Giuliani told reporters he was going to play baseball with his son — and instead went to a basement suite at City Hall with his "ever-present" press secretary.

4. Neither his wife nor his kids went to Rudy's victory party when he was reelected in 1997.

5. The kids aren't listed in Giuliani's bio on his Web page.

6. He skipped his son's high-school graduation.

7. He went to Caroline's but left without speaking to her. "I am celebrating with my mom, my stepfather, my brother, and our other family members," she said then.

Yeah, we'd be supporting someone else for president, too.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: hitpiece; mediabias
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To: hardback

Before the Rudybots whine that it’s the Village Voice, let me remind you that the Village Voice aren’t the liberals that’s in the MSM. These are old-line liberals who report on the Democrats just as much as Republicans.


21 posted on 08/15/2007 2:40:32 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: hardback

I will probably not vote for Guliani in the primary (but I might), but isn’t it true that some of the most effective managers in business are ***holes? Maybe this means he’d be a great and effective president. Just a thought.


22 posted on 08/15/2007 2:41:33 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: hardback
Yeh, well I busted a#@ to keep time with my kid over 12 years of divorce. Without getting into an Alec Baldwin tirade, I strongly doubt it was worth it.

And when it's all over, the local feminazi Domestic Relations court can kiss my shiny Freeper behind.

23 posted on 08/15/2007 2:41:35 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: hardback

Perhaps the time is right for us to have a leader who will be “nasty” to Chavez, Iran, Osama, China, etc.


24 posted on 08/15/2007 2:41:48 PM PDT by Salvey (ancest)
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To: bikerman

Rudy is a failed father. His ex may be a witch, but kids are completely able to figure out whether a parent really cares or is a self absorbed jerk that uses them as an accessory. That his adult children have no use for him says it all. If they have their hands out, it’s because that’s what their father taught them to do.

Parents make fools out of themselves when they try to influence their kids against the other.


25 posted on 08/15/2007 2:42:00 PM PDT by Valpal1 ("I know the fittest have not survived when I watch Congress on CSPAN.")
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To: GrandmaPatriot

In April 1999, Giuliani formed an exploratory committee in connection with the Senate run. However, on May 19, 2000, before the Republican primary which he was expected to win, he withdrew his candidacy, with the stated reason that he had been diagnosed as having prostate cancer and needed treatment. Contributing factors may have been the Farmersville Garbage Scandal which significantly reduced his support in his core upstate counties and the fallout from his affair and messy divorce from his wife Donna Hanover.


26 posted on 08/15/2007 2:43:44 PM PDT by kabar
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To: madprof98

Character matters; leadership descends from character.
- Rush Limbaugh -


27 posted on 08/15/2007 2:43:48 PM PDT by donna (Equal justice for U.S. citizens!)
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To: hardback; monkapotamus; All

He must be a***hole of a father


28 posted on 08/15/2007 2:44:36 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: theDentist
Seriously, my niece could come up with a better homework assignment than this drivel.

If Rudy's nominated, the MSM is going to be bringing all of this up non-stop anyway.

So it's good that alternative media is doing this & saving Rudy some face before the MSM gets ahold of him.

29 posted on 08/15/2007 2:46:23 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: olivia3boys
He has shown himself to be too inept when it comes to WOT. Remember the Kerik fiasco? His stance of illegals defies national interest. Plus, with his extensive baggage, he would be a pushover for the Democrats since the MSM will take their side.
30 posted on 08/15/2007 2:49:03 PM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: hardback

 I don’t like Rudy Giuliani. He is the Republican version of Bill Clinton. However, I can virtually guarantee you that the author of this article supports
Bill and Hillary, come hell or high water. His points are valid, but this is still agenda-driven nonsense.


31 posted on 08/15/2007 2:53:34 PM PDT by GOPANDCHRISTIANTOO
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To: hardback

it’s pretty clear his marriage was all but over well before most of these events. If you add it all up, they may have stayed together for some time for ‘appearances.’ These things matter, but it is always important to know the context. Bill and Hillary have been married for decades, but that doesn’t make them a role-model couple.

I, for one, would like a hard ass president to take down the miscreants around the world. I do want to hear how all of his ‘skeletons’ play out during the campaign before choosing him over Thompson or Mitt. For someone that this board calls a liberal, he sure does have a lot of enemies on the left.


32 posted on 08/15/2007 2:56:44 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Valpal1

The great Ronald Reagan had a really weird pair of kids by second wife, Nancy. The daughter, Patty Davis, wrote a couple of thinly disguised fiction books about ice-cold aloof fathers, and was a constant critic of his through both his administrations. His son, Ronald Jr., was his mother’s favorite for a long time, but they are now estranged and his speech at his father’s memorial service was disgraceful. He may be married, but his homosexuality has been well known for decades.


33 posted on 08/15/2007 2:57:07 PM PDT by xJones
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To: hardback

I don’t like Rudy. I don’t like some of his past positions and I don’t like his sordid personal life. If he is the best the GOP can come up, I expect to see a lot of real conservatives abandon the party.


34 posted on 08/15/2007 2:57:33 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: hardback
"Yeah, we'd be supporting someone else for president, too."

In fact, we are!

35 posted on 08/15/2007 2:58:58 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: GOPANDCHRISTIANTOO
"His points are valid, but this is still agenda-driven nonsense."

That's an interesting statement:
which is it?

Are the points valid OR is this "agenda-driven nonsense?
Can't see how it can be both.

36 posted on 08/15/2007 3:03:50 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Jane Austen

I suppose that’s debateable, but I’m for Fred. Rudy’s just has too much of a chance in splitting the party. A bad experiment in these days.


37 posted on 08/15/2007 3:08:57 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: hardback
“Start spreadin’ the news...”

“I’m leaving today...”

38 posted on 08/15/2007 3:14:07 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Vote for the man who will keep those Barbary Pirates at bay, RON PAUL 1816!)
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To: madprof98

Well, the VP does NOT pick the next justice on the SC.


39 posted on 08/15/2007 3:16:28 PM PDT by tioga (Instead of "finding" yourself -- CREATE yourself!)
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To: donna
Character matters; leadership descends from character. - Rush Limbaugh -

Not according to Bill Clinton or Rudy Guiliani supporters!!!

40 posted on 08/15/2007 3:18:19 PM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one to DIVIDE it!)
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