Posted on 08/15/2007 4:41:43 AM PDT by Kaslin
So, in other words, you are having no luck so far in proving your assertion that the claims made in the article are the same as statements made by the Vice President.
I spent 11 years as an covert Agency tech officer. I agree with every word written. Please back up your "clueless" statement.
I lost a house in hurricane Andrew. There was no civil authority, of any type, in my neighborhood for 6 weeks. I lived in a gated community and were able to keep out looters out only by standing guard with rifles and shotguns. There was no food, no water and we didn’t get elecricity back for almost a YEAR.
Now granted a small nuke will not be as anywhere near as destructive as Andrew. But detonated in a dense population area that will be of little solace to those affected. If 5-7 cities are hit simultaneously you will see martial law and lawlessness far beyond your very optimistic imagination.
Oh, of course.
Please back up your "clueless" statement.
The author needs to back up his ridiculous statement that all essential services and the rule of law would cease to exist for months if a terrorist nuclear attack occurred.
That is pure conjecture, unsubstantiated by any previous disaster response, for which he offers zero corroboratory information.
Bluetone006,
You are very brave. Now that you’ve called to question wideawake’s clueless comment, you are about to be called confused and ignorant.
Be forewarned, been there done that. This guy has killed this thread faster than an atomic bomb.
Hey, I along with you and everyone else on this thread have been declared confused and ignorant.
That other guy said so. (Nope ain’t gonna say it.)
When Manhattan is declared evacuated by your certitude, I will be happy to also address your other strawman.
Until then, take a hike.
The ordinary citizens would calm down fairly quickly and restore order on their own and eventually gov't would begin to function again when it is quiet enough.
No one claimed that Manhattan was entirely evacuated down to the last person, merely that hundreds of thousands of people - including many Manhattan residents - evacuated Manhattan on 9/11.
That incontrovertibly happened.
Of course, your assertion that nothing in the article hasn't already been said by the Vice President is just wrong.
The article makes ridiculous and unjustifiable claims.
Seen this happen on Christmas day. No cars, no pedestrians, nobody in town. Don't know where they go.
That's what experience demonstrates - and of course, the government in this instance has a number of contingency plans that are not predicated on waiting for a request of assistance by state officials.
Go back to sleep. Everything will be ok. The government will protect you.
I am believe what I have seen with my own eyes and not your anonymous claims of omniscience.
Go back to sleep. Everything will be ok. The government will protect you.
Our armed forces will indeed protect us. As they always have, despite the carping of "tech officers."
It is in individual cases. However society is robust and has shown it exists because of the sum of individual behaviors. The ten percent who can keep their heads in the crisis will carry the ninety percent. Gov't does not create society, society creates the state and the state creates the gov't.
That isn't the same as the rule of law. I have shot at (well near) people I thought were looters. Maybe they were and maybe they were not. The "lawfulness" of my act was borderline.
There could be some rough spots. Restoration of the legal system would come later. There is no way the officers of the state can cover the territory in that kind of crisis, and they actually cannot do it now without the aid of the ordinary citizens.
Our armed forces are the best in the world, overall. Unfortunately, in the event of a multi-city attack they will be able to protect us just as well as they did in Miami and New Orleans.
... and the glorious troops of the patriotic fatherland will march forth..... yeesh.
Again, many on this thread fail to note that an attack is immediately a federal matter while a natural disaster is not.
There were National Guard troops in Manhattan the morning after 9/11.
I'm not ashamed to say that I love my country and that I have the highest confidence in our armed forces.
I never expected to be taunted for it on this site, however.
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