Posted on 08/15/2007 4:41:43 AM PDT by Kaslin
Oh well...
I was at work in Manhattan on 9/11 and during the blackout.
The only person in this conversation who is confused is you.
If there is a nuclear bomb or dirty bomb, every single person will feel at risk, not just those in the vicinity of two buildings in one neighborhood.
This underlines your ignorance. Describing the WTC as "two buildings in one neighborhood" is like describing the Grand Canyon as a "crack in the ground."
No one in NYC knew on 9/11 that the attacks were going to end with the fall of the towers.
As I and tens of thousands of other New Yorkers walked across the 59th Street Bridge people were worried that the planes might have contained poisons or radioactive material - that the ash and dust that coated them might kill them. They were worried that another plane might hit the Empire State Building, or the Chrysler Building or the Citicorp building or any one of the bridges that Manhattanites were fleeing the city over. There were rumors that a bomb had exploded in the Midtown Tunnel or the Lincoln Tunnel.
No one on that day knew if they would be safe or what was coming next - if you think that every single person in NYC did not feel at risk on 9/11 you're out of your mind.
Government officials are never going to make a guarantee that there will be no more attacks - it is much more in their interest to warn people, that way if anything happens they look like prophets and if nothing happens they look like heroes.
The author of this article has no special knowledge that everyone else does not have access to - we all know what we are up against. Some will cry about it like little girls and the rest of us will man up and deal with it.
I've been here twice as long as you, "former Republican."
“You seem to have solidified your candidacy for being the #1 A-hole on this here thread!”
“I believe that this is uncalled for. I think wideawake is further proof of the old saying ‘Denial is not just a river in Egypt’.”
I must admit that I do agree with you. Although, he is a known mushy moderate, contrarian.
we’re ignoring you.
I'm not the one denying the documented fact that an active anti-terror policy has kept our shores free of terror attacks for six years.
That's not 100% luck - our enemies are doing their damnedest to get to us, and they have failed for six years running.
There is no such thing as a perfect defense. When faced with an implacable enemy with the ability to attack us, the only way to be safe is to eliminate them, one way or another. The longer they exist the more certain is their eventual success in striking us.
Of course not. Hand-wringing by losers who fraudulently claim to be in touch with highly-placed intelligence sources does nothing to enhance defenssive capabilties.
When faced with an implacable enemy with the ability to attack us, the only way to be safe is to eliminate them, one way or another.
Which we are in the process of accomplishing. It will be a long struggle and we knew that from the beginning.
Again, the past six years demonstrate our effectiveness in fighting this enemy, and the author's whinging makes no positive contribution.
You are coming across as quite arrogant calling me confused. I said you are confusing situations.
I worked across the street from the WTC for four years leading up to the attack.
If you can’t understand the distinction between a nuclear attack and the difference it will have on people, then I wish you good luck.
You’re making lots of friends on this thread and I prefer not to be labeled along with your ignorance. All New Yorkers are not about your illogical conclusions.
Worrying about something and knowing are two different things entirely. People did not evacuate midtown, uptown, downtown because they “worried” about radiation.
That’s utter bull. You lived in Queens. So you walked to Queens. You don’t speak in any way for the whole population of Manhattan that made no move to leave the island because they were “worried” about radiation or another attack.
The author doesn’t need “special knowledge” as you put it. He’s not saying anything comparatively different from what VP Cheney has said or the head of the FBI for that matter.
You want to attack someone as ignorant, please continue. Attack the VP, the FBI director, and the other Federal officials. But stop with your namecalling here of the posters and author because they don’t buy what you’re selling.
A dirty bomb and a nuclear warhead are two different things.
A dirty bomb will seem to the people in the detonation area like a standard explosion.
That is the only kind of nuclear attack terrorists would be able to engage in. There will be no mushroom cloud.
You don’t speak in any way for the whole population of Manhattan that made no move to leave the island because they were “worried” about radiation or another attack.
Plenty of Manhattanites evacuated. 14th Street was cordoned off and many people couldn't or didn't want to return to their apartments until they were sure what was going on.
He’s not saying anything comparatively different from what VP Cheney has said or the head of the FBI for that matter.
Indeed he is. The Vice President never said that in the event of another attack that "critical infrastructures like water, electricity, fuel, banks, our food supply, medical services, police and firefighters, being unavailable for weeks or months."
If I'm wrong, please point me to a Vice Presidential statement predicting that the financial system and the rule of law would be out of commission for months in the event of another attack.
Those old wooden school desks were secretly developed in conjunction with the Manhattan Project. They were impervious to the heat, radiation, and impulse of a nuclear blast.
Or maybe it was just to put wood over top of you so you would start burning faster. One of the two.
Yup, you’re wrong all right. Wrong on any understanding on the WTC attack and a nuclear attack. But not too worry, you think the latter is not possible. So no need to carry on.
You continue to fail to make a distinction that has been obviously stated on the impact on the public between the WTC and a nuclear attack.
You again fail on your remarks on Manhattan now citing that some people couldn’t get into their homes. This was addressed and your attempt to dismiss such by citing “many people” didn’t go to their homes below 14th St. is a poor straw man.
If there is a nuclear attack on the country, it’s fair to speculate that services will be problematic. Or do you plan on walking around in fallout carrying water to buildings in the neighborhood with no elevator service?
Don’t answer that. Something tells me by your argumentativeness here with people and your attempts at moving the goal posts that this reflects your personality and lack of friends.
Please don’t reply to me. Choose someone else. I don’t want to give FR folks such a poor impression and have them stereotype New Yorkers worse.
No, first the MSM would announce that the nuclear blast was not terrorist related. It’s just the first thing they’d do.
The day after, you’d also see stories on Page A5 about how the average ROP citizen ‘is afraid of retribution’.
So far, that’s the standard operating procedure for things like this.
Go back and look at everything from TWA 800 on.
Oh, of course.
I'm still waiting for that quote from the Vice President saying that all essential services would be unavailable for months following an attack.
When can I see it?
Must keep moving.... goal posts...... change subject.
Good luck with that.
The subject of this thread is about the claims the article makes.
You said yourself that the article wasn't saying anything different than what the Vice President had said in the past.
Of course, the article makes claims that the Vice President has never made, despite your assertion.
The article is wrong and you are wrong.
ORLY? Enough resources to buy and arm a nuclear bomb, but so stupid as to "walk" it around and detonate it on the ground?
They will be more creative than you, because they want to cause damage, not gripe about their pet politic.
Sneak it on a US-bound aircraft from a low-security airport (like central america or caribbean)and quietly fly it in. Detonate on descent into, say, San Jose or Miami Airport while 500 feet up over dense city.
But you're not really interested in the nuke issue....just a borderbot bouncing around.
Yeah and all of Manhattan has fled due to the WTC bombing and radiation worry.
Go away!
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