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How Much Longer Can America Survive an Ignorant Electorate?
NewsBull ^ | August 9, 2007 | JB Williams

Posted on 08/09/2007 7:41:37 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican

Can any representative republic survive a progressively ignorant electorate? Can freedom be sustained in any society hell-bent upon taxing its productive members out of existence, for benefit of its non-productive? Can people unable to successfully govern their own lives be entrusted with the power to govern others?

Not to be unkind, but we need to face facts here. So long as a republic represents the will of the brave, it will remain the home of the free. When it’s run by the productive members of society, it will remain prosperous. When it’s governed by the independent minded, it will not be dependent upon anyone. When run by those with a healthy respect for individual rights, special interests will no longer need special consideration.

But when cowards, thieves and thugs run things, those who believe that some progressive form of socialism is better than individual freedom and personal achievement, freedom is diminished. When those seeking to rob the rich in the name of the poor while stuffing their own pockets and growing their own political power run things, then the republic represents cowardly thieves, not the people.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: america; progress; values; voters
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To: ashtanga
When was the last time we had a President who had an IQ of 120 or higher, had read more than five novels, and was not an internationalist?

Calvin Coolidge? ;)

Seriously, I don't think who the President is matters nearly as much to the future of America as who runs the money center banks. And by the time you get down to the final two candidates, both have been thoroughly vetted by the Powers That Be and neither will do anything to rock the managed economy boat. Therefore, "Decision 2008" is a farce - like a Soviet election between multiple Communist Party candidates. People just get to pick the one with the best hair. ;)

121 posted on 08/10/2007 5:29:06 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Theodore R.

Hiltery will defeat Hitlery, as soon as she if faced with real opposition ans loses her temper.

When asked to respond to all the criminal charges against her husbands traitorous team, or account for her own campaign fraud, or explain how China ended up in America’s position after a lousy $300,000. in illegal campaign contributions from red China, she fold like a cheap lawn chair....


122 posted on 08/10/2007 5:31:44 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: upcountryhorseman

Any serious agenda to save America must begin with the reversal of the 16th and 17th amendments.

The states have no rights and neither do the people, until then.


123 posted on 08/10/2007 5:33:08 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: wardaddy

By the time the third world arrives, there will be nothing left for them to consume. We are consuming ourselves...


124 posted on 08/10/2007 5:34:11 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: BamaAndy

Thanks!


125 posted on 08/10/2007 5:34:51 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: RipSawyer

I second every word of this post!


126 posted on 08/10/2007 5:36:14 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Disagree...

Thompson, Hunter and Paul are not RINOs IMHO.

Hunter and Paul are career politicians however, and neither is resonating well with conservative voters.

Thompson was not planning on running at all, until conservatives passed on all others, either as RINOs or un-electables.

Thompson was drafted by conservatives.... He can’t be any more RINO than those who drafted him, myself included.

In a relative sense, you're right. Reagan by no means lived up to even half his idealogical rhetoric while in office (in practice).

Thompson supported McCain-Feingold. A candidate can't just be the sum of their drafters, otherwise he'll never have broad appeal. That said, Thompson's appeal is very broad already, but I question whether or not that's name recognition and the desire to check the 'other' category. He becomes human once he formally enters the campaign.

127 posted on 08/10/2007 6:01:24 AM PDT by Swordfished
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To: live+let_live

I didn’t know that my landlord doesn’t pay taxes on the property where I live. I was under the assumption that my rent was paying his property taxes- in other words we renters pay taxes too. Surely you know this.


128 posted on 08/10/2007 6:08:07 AM PDT by oregon conservative
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To: PlainOleAmerican

In America, individuals are sovereign with rights given them by their creator.

I think enough Americans can understand that, so we need not toss this experiment over the side yet.

As proof, we have American voters rejecting Kelo in state referendums, and instead reaffirming the individual and his rights in his property, thus rejecting the collectivist argument that property must be managed by the state for the Marxist common good.

With the right issue properly framed, Americans will reject the totalitarian state.

We’re not dead yet.


129 posted on 08/10/2007 6:08:13 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Swordfished

Thompson had just completed the most in-depth investigation into massive campaign fraud by the Clinton’s, which ended with a call for criminal prosecution, buried by Janet Reno.

Yes, Thompson and I both believe there is indeed a great need for campaign finance reform. We disagree that McCain-Feingold was the right answer. But coming out of the Clinton campaign investigation, I might have voted for it myself, thinking anything would be an improvement.

But is there a more conservative candidate available, who has as good a chance of winning as Thompson?

In my opinion, the answer is no...


130 posted on 08/10/2007 6:34:00 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: oregon conservative

Not the point at all. But a good self-serving argument for why renters should have a voice too.

The point is, pick any set of qualifications that make sense. If we let idiots vote, we are stuck with the decisions they make...


131 posted on 08/10/2007 6:35:41 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: sergeantdave

No, we’re not dead yet. Somewhere between 20% and 25% of us still get it.

Keep in mind that 50% don’t vote at all. Of the 50% who do vote, it appears that about 26% want socialism and 24% still believe in our founding principles...

We’re not dead yet, but we are indeed dying...


132 posted on 08/10/2007 6:38:20 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: live+let_live
The beginning of the end was when we began to allow non-property owners to vote. Just as taxation without representation is wrong. Representation without taxation is wrong. Unless you bear a portion of the cost of something you shouldn’t get a voice in its creation.

Damn Straight !

133 posted on 08/10/2007 6:38:41 AM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

It worries me that so many otherwise intelligent people, believe what the MSM has to say in support of a very liberal agenda.
They continue to argue that there is no media bias.


134 posted on 08/10/2007 6:39:49 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: G Larry

Pigs don’t know that pigs stink...


135 posted on 08/10/2007 6:41:51 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Cobra64

Hey! She is not from Florida! We’ve got some doozies but she was elected in Georgia!!!!


136 posted on 08/10/2007 7:33:31 AM PDT by jch10
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To: PlainOleAmerican

No, you misunderstand the American public. All it knows to do is vote for Clinton after a second failed Bush. The people can’t think too well. They don’t pay attention to campaigns. They know that Clintons sometimes say controversial (and unworkable things), but there is the Oprah-style media to cover or ignore such “misstatements”. The people shockingly cannot see that she is power AND money-mad.


137 posted on 08/10/2007 7:33:45 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Theodore R.

I agree, so where do I misunderstand the American people?


138 posted on 08/10/2007 7:52:16 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: RipSawyer
fact remains that it is pretty much impossible to win over an idiot by reasoned discourse

So then you use un-reasoned discourse.

Trick is, a leader needs to get the people behind him and to keep them there by any means he can get away with.

So don't complain about the people not listening to "reason" ("reason" is relative anyway).

You're just mad because some people see things differently than you.

They have a right to think in their fashion, and it's up to a leader to reach them, not the other way around.

139 posted on 08/10/2007 10:37:38 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Now, the nation is run by parasites to the ultimate death of the productive.

No one and nothing is to blame.

All civilizations go through the same rise and fall.

And the fall starts right about the time that civilization reaches its zenith.

Sucess makes the people muddle-headed and their leaders cynical and corrupt.

Not much can be done about it--if hard-times were to be experienced again in a fairly quick change, then sometimes the decline can be momentarily reversed, but ultimately it will resume.

140 posted on 08/10/2007 10:43:37 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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