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FBI Seizes Tape, PC In USF Case (Goose Creek, SC explosives case)
TampaTrib/TBO.com ^ | 8-9-07 | Valerie Kalfrin

Posted on 08/09/2007 6:57:23 AM PDT by STARWISE

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To: visualops

Usually one would take those items out of a trunk and put their LUGGAGE in there for a vacation trip.


41 posted on 08/09/2007 10:09:29 AM PDT by Citizen Soldier (Made in USA and proud of it.)
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To: Eddie01; catman67
Are you suggesting pipe bombs are legal in SC?

Quite the contrary. I'm suggesting that if they were transporting fireworks (as the family, I guess, is claiming), then the cop likely wouldn't have given them a second look.

I'm guessing here - but I'm guessing that something must have been out of the ordinary to get the cop's attention. Otherwise, these guys would have gotten a speeding ticket (or not, 15 over is marginal) and gone along their merry way.

I'd be curious as to what's not being published. There was something about them closing up a laptop when the cop came up, and that's what triggered his interest. Now, there are 100 reasons why you'd be using a laptop in a car. There's likely 100 more why you'd not want a cop to see....Looking at porn, listening to music, looking for wifi hotspots, maybe just didn't want the distraction with a cop standing over you. Who knows. But, from what I've read, these guys stink.

42 posted on 08/09/2007 10:18:02 AM PDT by wbill
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To: dawn53
Nobody seemed to know his name, LOL, but they did know he came here in January and left on Monday after these two guys got “caught.”

Fleeing the country seems like a perfectly normal response when one's roommate gets nailed for speeding.

43 posted on 08/09/2007 10:21:20 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: STARWISE

You’ll be able to tell if it is Muslim-extremist related.

The story will disappear.


45 posted on 08/09/2007 10:24:21 AM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: Lizarde
Yup. Granted, I did a lot of dumb things when I was a college kid. And, I'm sure that I "acted suspiciously" at some point in time.

But, there's something off about the whole situation. To me, at least, it sounds like something or other triggered the cop's antenna, so he pulled them over for speeding, and then things progressed from there.

46 posted on 08/09/2007 10:30:03 AM PDT by wbill
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To: mbraynard
The FBI never said it wasn’t terrorist related.

No Link to Terrorism

Goose Creek - Two men are being held in the Berkeley County Detention Center after police find explosive making devices in their car. There are conflicting reports as to the quantity of explosive making materials in that vehicle.

FBI (website) reports are saying that there is not believed to be a link to terrorism.


47 posted on 08/09/2007 10:31:17 AM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: Lizarde

Also, if it turns out that the guys were being followed, or were already under investigation....that adds a whole new dimension to the issue, IMHO.


48 posted on 08/09/2007 10:31:43 AM PDT by wbill
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To: VeniVidiVici

Ixnay on the Ishtay, lol.

He allowed near-strangers to enter his house ... and cook?


50 posted on 08/09/2007 10:37:21 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: AnnaZ
FBI (website) reports are saying that there is not believed to be a link to terrorism.

Lots of wiggle room in that statement, even though I'm sure it was intended to give the impression that terrorist activity had been ruled out.

51 posted on 08/09/2007 10:39:36 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: AnnaZ

Thank you, for posting that. Right after it hit the news, the first thing officials stated was they didn’t think it was terror related. In fact, there were at least two threads here on FR that mentioned this. Now, I am not sure if it was FBI or Homeland Security, that first stated it. But they sure tried to down play it that first 24 hours.


52 posted on 08/09/2007 10:40:59 AM PDT by Babsig (www.genesysitsolutions.com)
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To: AnnaZ
So you trust ABC's first draft? They got it wrong.

See the direct FBI quote here.

"At this point, it is too early in the investigation to say there is any link to terrorism," [FBI Spokesman] Kolko said.

53 posted on 08/09/2007 10:43:58 AM PDT by mbraynard (FDT: Less Leadership Experience than any president in US history)
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To: RegulatorCountry

See my 53. ABC is incorrect.


54 posted on 08/09/2007 10:44:48 AM PDT by mbraynard (FDT: Less Leadership Experience than any president in US history)
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To: Pyncho

regarding the incident in Progresso - I’m truly shaking my head. I had no idea that was going on. Before we build a wall - we need to make sure that doesn’t happen anymore.


55 posted on 08/09/2007 10:47:51 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: mbraynard

Sorry for interrupting the flow, but, mbraynard, who’s FDT?


56 posted on 08/09/2007 10:48:17 AM PDT by Pyncho (Success through excess)
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To: mbraynard
My knee-jerk bad. Sorry. I just got back from vacation and my news reading for the past two weeks has been cursory at best. I just remembered seeing that thread.

Carry on.

= )

57 posted on 08/09/2007 10:50:08 AM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: wbill

The cops antenna was definitely up. Here’s an article where HLS director praised the police department.

http://www.abcnews4.com/news/stories/0807/445707.html

That tells me that there is probably something going on other than ‘fireworks’.


58 posted on 08/09/2007 10:53:17 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: HollyB
Yes, I find the Progresso incident VERY troubling, and wife and I still talk about it (it happened a year ago). My sense - and I'm not looking to libel anyone - is that the border guard, who spoke Spanish, got paid off by yet another guy, immediately following the "father and son." The same guard escorted him into a holding area (replaced by a new guard)- right after "father and son" walked off. The whole time the detainee (another Mexican, who kinda looked like Baretta in his younger days) had a smile on his face as big as his wide-brimmmed TX hat. Enjoyed the walk into the holding area. Of course, all of this may be my warped interpretation of events. But I think about it constantly, and, myself, I have trouble coming up with benign accountings. The kicker for me, after all these months, is that the kid NEVER SPOKE A WORD in any language to anyone - not to “dad,” not the the guard, not to anyone else. A wall, in the absence of correcting this sort of stuff, is as unworthwhile as it gets. And everyone at the border knows this full well, including those of us (in TX more generally) who support the wall 100%.
59 posted on 08/09/2007 10:56:15 AM PDT by Pyncho (Success through excess)
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To: dixie sass

“According to a friend they were in the WalMart less than a mile from where they were stopped.”

Perhaps what they bought at the Walmart caused concern among the employees and they called police?


60 posted on 08/09/2007 10:57:11 AM PDT by keepitreal
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