Ron Paul Repeats Commitment to Overturning Roe v. Wade

LifeNnews.com ^ | August 8, 2007 | Steven Ertelt

[End Times Crusader]

Ron Paul is perfectly willing to use the Constitution as toilet paper when it benefits his buds in the shrimp industry.

[Rudder]

Just funnin’ you.

[dcwusmc]

We’re talking about Dr. Paul and libertarians, NOT the LP. I agree, there IS a lot of crap in that platform... but bear in mind just what the Constitution IS: a set of rules for GOVERNMENT to live under and obey... It does not grant We, the People, ONE SOLITARY THING. It, unique among such things, requires that government at ALL levels recognize our PREEXISTING rights, rights granted us by GOD, not government... and the 10th amendment is the main obstacle to government growth (which is why it’s routinely ignored), as it explicitly states that whatever authority is not specifically granted fedgov is PROHIBITED to it.

[dcwusmc]

He HAS no buds in the shrimping industry, thread hijacker. He will forward their requests, as he is supposed to, without recommendation and without support. More than one person wanting to tap into the federal pie has said that they thank their congressman for doing that for them, but they’d like it a whole lot better if he’d SUPPORT their request.

So now you know, noob. Please stay on topic here. This is about pro-life, not about earmarks or anything else.

[End Times Crusader]

Maybe you or one of the other Paulites can explain to me how your man voted against restricting minors from getting abortions but for banning partial birth abortion. According to you strict Constitutionalists they are both outside the authority of the federal government.

[cva66snipe]

I can’t think of a more qualified candidate running who can educate the people to what abortion really is. Ron Paul has a way of cutting through the haze and getting to the heart of matters. The debates in the house and senate need to be done on live TV C-span with graphic pictures showing the procedure. My guess is if they refused to show them or describe the procedure Ron Paul would not refuse to do the task himself to get the word out. It’s going to take public outrage and changing peoples hearts to overturn this horror.

[George W. Bush]

Ron Paul is perfectly willing to use the Constitution as toilet paper when it benefits his buds in the shrimp industry.

Huh? Can you prove the House voted for a single earmark, shrimp or otherwise, from the $400 million in earmarks that Ron Paul submitted?

BTW, they investigated a few days back and reported that earmarks for Pelosi/Hoyer/Murtha were in the range of $25-$40 million passed by the House. Of course, they have to still get through reconciliation but since they're party leaders that is likely to happen.

Allowing his constituents to request such a vast and ridiculous amount of earmarks, weeding only a few of the laughable ones, is Ron Paul's way of defeating them. But he's not throwing any "poison pills" at them; he lets their own greed defeat them. They ask for everything, rarely get anything. But the bigger items for highways and bridges are noted in the legislation and will likely be eventually funded by the DoT anyway. Things like the Galveston causeway and bridge repairs on federal highways in the district.

Unlike many others in Congress, Ron Paul presents his earmarks list. (BTW, I think Obama is the only other candidate in the race who released his.) You can find RP's earmark list in PDF format right at his website. Or you can download it directly from CNN. Read it. Maybe you'll learn something.

There are two shrimp projects. One for research (57) and one for wild shrimp marketing (65). Page one contains an additional request for the testing of all seafood for antibiotic contamination so you could count it as shrimp-related! Yahoo.

But the porkiest of the lot is on page 21, the Edna theater renovation as a foul lair of the local Chamber of Commerce (earmark from Texas DoT budget). Now, some or many or all of the other TX DoT project may be funded as earmarks or simply funded by the DoT. But this is just a bunch of porkers with their fist out to the government. And Ron Paul has exposed their little scheme and made it part of the congressional record.

One gets tired of doing the legwork for you folks. It's not like this stuff is secret, not with Ron Paul. He puts it all out there for you to read and inspect. He like open government. Ron Paul has transparency, always has. He doesn't have to have a fake transparency law (like the Dims just passed) to be honest with his constituents about what he does. You realize, this is part of what keeps getting him elected. Honesty is a pretty rare quality in candidates of either party.

[George W. Bush]

You're so right. Those who are interested can read these two closely related threads:

Ron Paul's Statement of Faith

Theology, not Politics [Ron Paul on Pope John Paul II]

Those are both rather wonderful threads for those who care deeply about the pro-life issue and who have fought for it along with Ron Paul and Henry Hyde and so many others ever since Ronald Reagan took up the pro-life banner in the mid-Seventies.

[Lexinom]

Duncan Hunter has been re-introducing the Right to Life act for years, incl. most recently this year.

[BlackElk]

If all paleoPaulie wants to DO about abortion is hold press conferences and overturn Roe vs. Wade (a necessary first step in any event) all he will accomplish is to send the matter back to the states where New York, California and a handful of other states will (under "state's rights" theories) guarantee that most abortions will still occur. If paleoPaulie can play the constitutional two-step by cramming unconstitutional earmark after unconstitutional earmark for his constituents into appropriations bills which he then hypocritically votes against with his pseudo"constitutionalist" dainty little pinky in the air, then he can do more than punt to the states on the very lives of the unborn innocent.

Protecting the babies from being sliced, diced and hamburgerized (which can be done by defining them as "persons" under the 14th Amendment and thereby prohibiting state denial of Equal Protection of the Laws under actual laws passed by Congress which is authorized by the 14th Amendment to do so) is a LOT more important than federal subsidies to the shrimping industry in Galveston and to Galveston trolleys and to Galveston local buses and to Galveston infrastructure and to other paleoPaulie pork projects and more important by far than Scarlett O'Paulie's pose of constitutionalist "virginity."

[BlackElk]

Read the entire article underlying this thread and see that it notes paleoPaulie's four votes against bills that would make it a federal crime to transport girls across state lines to procure abortions. If Roe vs. Wade is overturned as it must be, then it will be necessary to enact federal laws to crack down on baby-killing. If paleoPaulie won't even vote for the sort of laws that would prohibit interstate travel for abortion (under the interstate commerce clause for the "constitutionalist" fussbudgets and fantasists), then he most certainly will not fight for such legislation as you cite since he also does not, according to the article, believe that abortion is a federal issue. Introducing legislation without actually seeking its enactment is, like press conferences, press releases and special orders speeches, just another form of pandering to the gullible.

That having been said, maybe paleoPaulie should singlemindedly devote himself to passage of this legislation rather than undermining our nation's foreign policy, cutting off funds from our troops at war, being Al Qaeda's major propagandist in Congress and in the GOP presidential debates, securing federal subsidies by earmark for shrimping, trolleys, buses, infrastructure and so forth. A remaining legislative career might yet become respectable if he emulated Wilberforce's determination against slavery in the Brit Parliament in promoting this bill. Why AM I confident that he will instead emulate Captain Ahab with our country and our troops as his great white whale?

Life: paleoPaulie was for it before he was against it before he was for it before he was against it.....

[BlackElk]

JL1789: No doubt it was a staffer and not Napoleon Paulie who wrote the bill. At least a Duncan Hunter has the respect of his colleagues to get 100 co-sponsors for a similar bill. A man like Hunter who rises to deftly chair Armed Services is a man of respect. PaleoPaulie, aka Dr. Demento, is a laughing stock. PaleoPaulie is strictly amateur hour. There is a difference.

[BlackElk]

dwusmc: Duncan Hunter is a sane human being and has been a distinguished CONSERVATIVE and a distinguished Member of Congress. Can paleopipsqueak Dr. Demento say the same??? Hell, no!!! El Ron Paulie is a fake, a phony and a shrimp bidness subsidizing fraud, a grandstanding poseur who is working for the enemy in this war.

[Beckwith]

The president hasn’t the power to overturn Roe v. Wade.

[BlackElk]

Imprisoning the bastards who have sliced, diced and hamburgerized the babies would go a long way toward solving the abprtion problem. Your position makes as much sense as trying to end bank robbery by curing poverty. In one case, the problem is the premeditated murder for hire of unborn babies and in the other the premeditated robbing of other people's money. We need not satisfy the gods of socialism before defending our society from either of these barbarisms.

You may well not intend it but your argument is also analogous to and reminiscent of the basic Al Qaeda propaganda of paleoPaulie that if only we would pucker up for Islamofascist backsides, they would love us and there would be war no more.

[BlackElk]

I concede that paleoPaulie is quite transparent. If anyone wants to see how transparent, he or she can look into paleoPaulie’s left ear and see out through his right ear with no obstructions whatsoever.

[George W. Bush]

I knew you could find something nice to say about Ron Paul if you just tried.

[Berosus]

This is news to me. I thought all Libertarians were “pro-choice” without exception.

[BlackElk]

Although I disagree with what I perceive to be your support of paleoPaulie, I did read your homepage and your #65 which mark you as the kind of guy we could use a lot more of. Your family and congregants are fortunate to have someone of your general wisdom.

May God bless you and yours.

[BlackElk]

Welcome to FR! You have made a good beginning and you hold the promise of continuing to be much wiser than your critics.