Paul Right, Romney Wrong on Iraq and 9/11

John Birch Society ^ | 8-8-07 | Gary Benoit

[redgirlinabluestate]

Yes, Clinton’s appeasement/doing nothing resulted in the embassy bombings, the barrack attack, the attack on the USS Cole and culminated in 9/11/01. Better to be on offense than defense IMO. Also, as trite as it sounds, better there than here.

[SJackson]

Oh....and al Qaeda was in Iraq before we were. The training camp areas still stand as proof. They are just not being utilized as training camps anymore. ;-)

We're those stewardess training centers?

The relevant whereas' from the Authorization, I've no problem with any of them and the certainly don't say Sadaam was a 9/11 factor, only a future threat. Future threats were the basis of GWB's preemption policy, of which no secret was made.

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Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;

Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of United States citizens;

Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001, underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend itself;

[LibLieSlayer]

If I can’t say anything nice, I’ll say nothing.

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LLS

[mnehring]

No terrorist training camps here.. move along, nothing to see..

[mnehring]

Your tag line makes me think of a good question for Paullites.

Does Paul want to kill terrorists? If so, where should we do it?

[ejonesie22]

No real Career College is complete without an Airliner Hijacking Center...

And a cosmtology department...

[Porterville]

I’m not going to say anything about Ross Perot Lite.

[LibLieSlayer]

The stated reason for invasion was Saddam violating his ceasefire agreement and violating 17 UN resolutions along with expelling UN inspectors.

LLS

[ejonesie22]

Oh, now come on, even Ross Perot looks at RP and goes “damn boy!”

[griswold3]

I like your tagline...

Ron Paul reminds me of Robert Taft of WWII fame, a Nattering Nabob of Negativity.( My grandmother , to her dying day, believed we had no business in Europe and Japan was justified in the Pearl Harbor attack because we cut off their oil.) Been there, done that.

Yeah, that worked.

[Allegra]

The relevant whereas' from the Authorization, I've no problem with any of them and the certainly don't say Sadaam was a 9/11 factor, only a future threat. Future threats were the basis of GWB's preemption policy, of which no secret was made.

I'm not arguing that.

I'm a staunch supporter of Operation Iraqi Freedom and reject anything that has to do with cutting and running.

Did you perhaps mean that post for someone else?

[SJackson]

The Iraqi documents prove that Saddam had relations to Al Qaeda and that he trained the foreign Arab terrorists.... . Exactly, I posted some excerpts from the Authorization in post 62, that's what it says. And the connection to 9/11 isn't that Sadaam was directly involved as Pauls supporter tend to distort the issue, rather preemption. Which makes Romney's comments on target. Of course many don't support preemption, in which case acting after the fact, as is Afghanistan is the preferred course of action.

[mimaw]

I bet Patsy Buchanan agrees with Birch Society and Ron Paul too.

[caltrop]

All neocons aren’t Jews. Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld and William Bennett aren’t Jewish. It is clear, at least to me, that neocons believe American troops should be engaged almost everywhere, unless we’re talking about Africa or the subcontinent where their enthusiasm seems to fall off towards zero. Sending our ground troops to the ME does, however, seem to particularly appeal to them but of the ones I know I’d have to say only some are Israel Firsters.

[mnehring]

So, what’s a neocon?

[curiosity]

John Birch Society? Aren't there rules against posting articles from that place?

[CJ Wolf]

I’m ok with cutting their throats and leaving victorious though.

[LibLieSlayer]

As always JV, thanks for your great work.

LLS

[CJ Wolf]

If there are I apologize.

[mnehring]

I would hope the mods can make an exception in this case.. it is always good when the tinfoil hats can be disassembled by facts and they (via the thread) are available on a Google search for those researching.