So, say I had a teenage son who decided to invite some friends over my house without my permission and they were monopolizing my family room as they loudly played stupid videogames. Doing absolutely nothing illegal - just being nuisances.
You are honestly claiming that I would legally have to sit around and wait for them to decide to leave my home? That as long as they were invited in by a minor who resides in my home, I have no legal say in the matter?
Challenge.
I don’t believe anyone is saying that. Once you tell your son’s friends to leave, their invitation has been revoked. In this case, according to the article, Guzman was telling the father he would leave as soon as he was discovered.
You can ask them to leave, and overrule your kids. But they are not trespassers.
You are honestly claiming that I would legally have to sit around and wait for them to decide to leave my home? That as long as they were invited in by a minor who resides in my home, I have no legal say in the matter?
I think that you can order them to leave, and have them removed by law enforcement if need be, but you can't beat them with a pool cue and then shoot them.
“You are honestly claiming that I would legally have to sit around and wait for them to decide to leave my home? That as long as they were invited in by a minor who resides in my home, I have no legal say in the matter?”
Please show me where I said that. You have every right to tell them to leave and if they don’t, then they’re trespassing. But before you tell them to leave, they’re not because they were invited in by a resident of the house. The boyfriend was NOT trespassing.
Challenge.
Classic straw man. Your earlier point up-thread was that he was an intruder and therefore could be shot. Now you are saying "I have no legal say in the matter." Appleas and oranges. You can, of course, tell the teenage friends to leave. If they refuse, you can call the cops. If they threaten you, you can defend yourself. However, you can't block their exit and then shoot them as intruders.
Nice try with the strawman, though.
Without claiming to know the specifics of Arkansas law, the common law answer/analysis would go something like this:
1. You and any adult living in the house (and probably children but that's less clear) have the authority to invite someone into the common dwelling (a 'license' to enter).
2. With respect permission granted by minors, and possibly by adults, you as head of household can revoke the license to enter. But, if you do so you have to give the person whose license is revoked a reasonable time to leave in a peaceful manner.
So you find little Guzzy in the bedroom with 17 year old Sweet Cakes on her invitation, you can certainly order him out. But if he agrees to go, and is simply getting his stuff together to do so, you have no right to attack him physically.
Unfortunately, the only criminal here is dear ol' Dad.
The scenario you paint is TOTALLY different from the situation we have been discussing. Of course you have the authority to boot the kids out, but that does NOT make them intruders.